IndyCar » POLL: Should IndyCar abandon ovals?


Give us your views on whether the IndyCar Series should abandon oval racing

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JOHN - Unregistered

October 20, 2011 3:05 PM

IndyCar is all about the spectacle, hence 'The Greatest Spectacle in Racing' - that is the Indy 500. Having no '500' would be to take away what countless fans love and enjoy (not to mention those involved in the event) We witnessed Dan (Wheldon) winning it last May and the unspeakable joy of that. Its the L Vegas race farce that should not have gone ahead (I wont waste my space about 34 cars on a too short, tight oval, 220mph+ and drivers chasing $5m prizemoney). Dan's untimely passing was tragic. RIP Dan. Godspeed to his family

JOHN - Unregistered

October 20, 2011 3:06 PM

IndyCar is all about the spectacle, hence 'The Greatest Spectacle in Racing' - that is the Indy 500. Having no '500' would be to take away what countless fans love and enjoy (not to mention those involved in the event) We witnessed Dan (Wheldon) winning it last May and the unspeakable joy of that. Its the L Vegas race farce that should not have gone ahead (I wont waste my space about 34 cars on a too short, tight oval, 220mph+ and drivers chasing $5m prizemoney). Dan's untimely passing was tragic. RIP Dan. Godspeed to his family

SP3 - Unregistered

October 20, 2011 5:12 PM

This poll is worthless because the fools at Crashnet don't understand and left off the option of "ovals - but smaller and less banked". I worked on CART Indycars for a decade before all of the highbanked cookiecutter nascrap tracks made it on to the Indycar schedule. The type of incident that is the subject, never happened at Milwaukee or Loudon. Or Phoenix. Or Homestead (pre-banking). Or Nazareth. Further, it is just as much the spec everything rules designed to keep things "close and exciting" that are the problem. Again, did not happen in the CART days.

Brad Dill - Unregistered

October 20, 2011 9:13 PM

Unfortunately NASCAR became very popular and very rich. Many former Indy car tracks have been reconfigured to high bank tracks to support the slower NASCAR formula. Most new oval tracks were built with high banks, with NASCAR in mind. Thus Indy car is limited in the choice of oval tracks.

If Dan had not died in the 15 car crash the footage would still have made all the news programs, only most would be marveling about how all the drivers walked away. (14 drivers walked only Pipa Mann had a burnt hand). But Dan hit the catch fence cockpit side and now all the idiots who never paid any attention to Indycar before want to voice their "knowledgable" opinion.

Indycar's heritage is ovals an Jimmy Johnson is stupid, as A.J. and Mario pointed out.

Nicolai - Unregistered

October 20, 2011 9:14 PM

It took me a while to come around but now I love oval racing, its the closest open wheel racing youll ever see. In F1, the result is too often determined by the qualifying order with the race being nothing more than a procession. In Indycar on ovals, you never know who's going to win until the last few laps.
So I say keep the ovals but keep on making them safer.

bojan - Unregistered

October 21, 2011 10:35 AM

Whilst the unsuitability of the track for so many open wheeled cars may have caused the accident, the immediate cause of Dan Wheldon's death seems to have been the catch fencing.

Unless my memory is playing tricks, I recall Jeff Krosnoff met a very similar fate back in CART days, and that happened on a street circuit. Anywhere the spectators get close to the action they have to be protected, even at the expense of the drivers, so the real challenge is to find a safer form of catch fencing.

Until then at least, it would seem sensible to be more selective in the choice of ovals, even if this does result in a preponderance of road courses. But to abandon them entirely would be suicide for Indycar, most of its remaining fans would probably switch to NASCAR if that happened.

Airconjon - Unregistered

October 21, 2011 10:28 PM

First of all, rest in peace Danny. You're one of the good guys. Sorely missed. Short track, mile oval, Intermediate tracks, Superspeedways, street circut, permanent track, airfields, it doesnt matter, if you flip your racecar and land/hit something anything cockpit first, you are in trouble. As well as Dan, Jeff Krosnoff, Gonzalo Rodrigues, Greg Moore, and Tony Renna all had cockpit first impacts which unfortunatly killed them. But they were not all on ovals. The new chassis out next season should lessen the chances of cars going airbourne but still as long as the drivers head is exposed they are vulnerable. These cars are amazingly fast and any high impact can kill on any circut, not just ovals.

Dave1

October 22, 2011 8:44 PM
Last Edited 1059 days ago

"Fools"? "Idiots"? "Stupid"? NASCRAP"? You guys should be in Congress! Or maybe you're just trying to compensate for something?
Personally, I am hard pressed to name any motorsports racing, 2 wheels or 4 that is not valid & interesting. There is room for all and many true race fans enjoy them all.

Here is the poll option I would liked to have voted for:

Do NOT abandon ovals.

Make catch fence & Safer Barrier improvements a priority.

Approve or reject tracks on a case by case basis. (I don't think the banking is the sole problem. Texas Motor Speedway has been a favorite IRL (not CART!) track for years.)

Large fields make for interesting racing, but too large invites "Big One" wrecks. Find the best compromise number. Maybe index it to track length/type?

Keep the momentum going on making the cars safer. Dan believed in that. Look closer at improved protection for that vulnerable driver's head area

Keep improving the driver personal safety devices (like HANS).

Continued below...

Dave1

October 22, 2011 8:47 PM

Here are my comments that were cut from my previous post:

Consider slowing the cars down, some way that does not cause the pack-building like NASCAR restrictor plates. I personally can't tell the difference in 220 vs 200 MPH. The quality of the racing counts most. This will never be a popular thing, for reasons we all know. But its time may have come for Indy cars.

LISTEN to the DRIVERS, both current and the old guys. They all have plenty to say that must be regarded.

I don't think there is any single answer, rather the cumulative effects of many small things.

Stop throwing rocks at those who disagree with us.

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