F1 » Webber still regrets passing up Renault move

As he approaches retirement, Mark Webber says he would change little about his F1 career, except for one decision in late 2004...

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September 24, 2013 1:46 PM
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Oh, Lotus/Williams offer is news to me! :(

Why didn't you accept Lotus offer, Mark? I'm 100% sure that it would have been more fun in the F1 than going to Porsche Sports cars considering you won't be competing in the 2014 WEC season.

You've missed a huge opportunity, considering Kimi will be moving to Ferrari and Lotus needs a man like you badly! Of course, more money in the F1. Now I very feel bad, just like sour taste feelings (not grapes) :( :(


September 24, 2013 2:36 PM
Last Edited 948 days ago

To be honest I think that had he gone to Renault, FA would still have had the better of him. He did quite comprehensibly beat all his teammates up to that point but if you judge his performances next to Heidfeld (about equal) and Vettel (regardless of team politics, less good), you'd have to say Webber was/is very good but not quite on that top level 'we' rate FA/Vettel/Lewis/Kimi on.

That said he should have won the championship in 2010 when he probably performed to his maximum all year and Seb ran into trouble on a few occassions, but then too he ultimately buckled under the pressure (off in Korea, poor qualifying at the decider in abu dhabi)...

The move he really hsould have made is to go to Ferrari after 2010...not because he would have won a championship but quite possibly some races in the red car and avoid much of the acrimony between him and Vettel, would have made for much better F1 twilight years I reckon. But he probably thought he might have another shot at the WDC at RBR


September 24, 2013 2:51 PM

Webber is from Queanbeyan in New South Wales, not from "the backwoods of Queensland". Pretty big difference - they're well over 1,000km apart (more than 600 miles for those still in the dark ages).


September 24, 2013 2:52 PM

I think Crash made a mistake when they said "Coming from the backwoods of Queensland". Webber was born in Queenbyean New South Wales. Unless he did spend some time in Queensland I just didn't know of. I never knew he got the offer to drive for Renault. I mean, Alonso probably would have still beaten him but at least Mark could have built his career up earlier, maybe get a race win in 2004 rather than 2009. Actually, Alonso was young in 2005 aswell, so there may not have been team orders if Webber could have shown good performance in early 2005. Oh well, if only you could rewind time.


September 24, 2013 2:55 PM

Tesla - this is not a new offer from Lotus for the 2014 season - did you even read the article? Webber's decision was in relation to the 2005 season when he had offers from both Renault (i.e. Renault proper, not Lotus/Genii capital) and Williams following his drive at Jaguar.


September 24, 2013 6:06 PM

Not surprising that his private conversations with Vettel lately have been "disappointing." It's a grown man with experience talking to the equivalent of a teenager, maturity-wise. Vettel may be fast, but he's got a lot to learn...and all Red Bull is teaching him is that it's perfectly acceptable to be a tool.


September 24, 2013 8:09 PM

Is nice to remember the 2005 F1 season. This sport got out of the crisis of one man winning race after race and title after title, where people seemingly loosing interest on this sport. After that we had different champions in Alonso, Raikkonen, Hamilton, Button and Vettel with Massa and Webber coming close to become world champions as well. It's sad to think that after less than ten years F1 maybe is facing the same crisis again.

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