MotoGP » 'Positive feedback' for 1000cc MotoGP - Pt 1.

“The proposal put on the table was for 1000cc and four cylinders. That's it.”

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nedTed - Unregistered

December 02, 2009 11:13 AM

Yes to 1000cc, but banning traction control has go with it otherwise the it won't make a whole load of difference.

1000cc + no traction control = proper racing again.

DC - Unregistered

December 02, 2009 12:53 PM

Why change the cc at all? Just ban all the electronic aids such as TC, back in control and ride by wire. Also change the minimum weight limit to include the rider.

mr softy

December 02, 2009 1:28 PM

great news, but unfortunately traction control is used on road bikes these days so will probably stay. it's the sat-nav part they need to dump AND the tight fuel restrictions.

but then i suppose it really comes down to what honda wants............

not that it's worked for them lately


December 02, 2009 1:52 PM

Probably the most intelligent comments I've ever read on here!

Shows you guys understand the sport and aren't the same old dummies that say bring back 990's!

125, 250 and 600cc supersport proves it's not about the capacity, it's the electronics which ruin the racing.
I agree that TC now has a place on proddie bikes and won't go away so how about:

Ban GPS suspension and TC

Ban Active suspension

Remove gyroscopes and gimbles

Restrict TC to maps for gear/revs/wheel speed

Factory electronics package must be available to satellite teams

Ban anti-wheelie

Ban total launch control

Remove rule saying engines bikes MUST be prototypes and allow modified production bikes

Kimey - Unregistered

December 02, 2009 1:55 PM

What they have to do is get more bikes on the grid. To do that more engines and chassis's needed. Don't know how to achieve it but need something and quick as Motogp is dying on its feet. Maybe a rule that every manufacturer has to provide production based bikes (e.g. back in the day RG500, RS500 (they were c**p but increased numbers) and of course TZ500s) Would result in 2 races in one effectively but the cream of the prodution side could then easily graduate to full work status based on good results, not where they are born.


December 02, 2009 3:35 PM
Last Edited 2189 days ago

The idea is for cheap horsepower. The old saying of "there is no substitute for cubic inches" applies here. Bigger engines and a ban on exotic materials and TC will also do. The argument of "well road bikes have TC so it is here to stay" doesn't fly. Production cars have TC as well and F1 is doing just find without it. F1 is also doing just fine with a stardard ECU that I would like to see in MotoGP as well. Where as everyone in F1 has V8's, I don't know if it will work in MotoGP though with the different engine configurations.

The idea is to cut cost for privateers to be able to join the series. MotoGP needs to be less dependent on the factories who can go at anything if they choose.

Dolmio Man - Unregistered

December 02, 2009 4:22 PM

What I wonder is why does MotoGP seem to have boring races? 125cc, 250cc, 600cc, and WSBK(1000cc)all have great close racing every weekend, why isnt MotoGP the same?

racer - Unregistered

December 02, 2009 7:49 PM

Learn something from F1, cut back on the electronics! As much as it pains me to say this, maybe this time we should look at those loonies that run F1, the ban on electronic driving aids really did work. MotoGP should go the same route, no GPS fuel maps, no traction control, no launch control.

I wouldn't oppose a control ECU, they're doing that in F1 too and at first everybody opposed and screamed "the sky is falling", but no one seems to remember that these days.

So, bore (or stroke) out the engines to 990cc, end this 6 engines per season nonsense, enlarge the fuel tanks to 25 liters and ban the electronic riding aids. Guaranteed show.

racer - Unregistered

December 02, 2009 7:54 PM

Oh, and the reason for the displacement enlargement is simple -- the 800cc are fickle mistresses, they're very costly to run because it's really hard to make any sort of useable power from them, and they're quite fragile when compared to the older engines. So, if it's cost savings they're after, ban the 800cc. Everybody involved in MotoGP says this was the worst move ever. I think it's time those in charge start to listen to those who are out there racing.

Maybe engines based off of production, stock bottom ends (crankcase and crank), but you get to use your own pistons, rods, valves, cams, heads.

Paul Buckland

December 02, 2009 8:07 PM

Dolmio Man - I think the reason why we have dull MotoGP's now is because of the make up of the field. We have 2 works Yamahas, 2 satellite Yamahas, 2 factory Hondas, several sat Hondas, 2 factory Ducatis, 4 sat Ducatis, 2 factory Suzukis ( only ). There are performance gaps between the Yams, Honda, Sukis, Dukes. The other series all have several of one or two, or of each, manufacturer and the similar bikes are therefore more evenly matched. There just has to be more bikes, especially the better ones. If there were several Yams and Suzukis they would be racing closer together, as the private Honda usually are, as their performances are much more on a level with each other.

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