MotoGP » 'Positive feedback' for 1000cc MotoGP - Pt 2.


"This is the end of an era, but that doesn't mean the era was wrong"

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Hi - Unregistered

December 02, 2009 11:17 AM

Surely the best way forward is a prototype 4 cylinder with either no electronics or regulated ECUs? I know a lot of money goes into that, and we get to see proper bike skills :)

Jake - Unregistered

December 02, 2009 11:55 AM

No matter what they do it's going to be the same problem because of ego. all everything thinks is more power. There is nothing wrong with the 800s. The problem with the 800s that the manufacturers tried to defeat the purpose of going to 800cc's in the first place, and get them to make the power and speed of the 990s. This is why they were so peeky and required all the electronics.

If the 800's were built within the scope of why the rule was changed, they could have had very good power with a decent power band that didn't require the gadgets.

A 600 feels great and strong on it's own , it's when compared to a 1000 that it feels weak and underpowered.

Jake - Unregistered

December 02, 2009 11:58 AM

All these rule changes are silly and overkill and won't accomplish anything but ruin the show. As has been said countless times, ban the electronics (and yes it can be done), emphasize fuel economy, ban certain materials and that will cut costs more then these stupid engine and bike restrictions

John VFR - Unregistered

December 02, 2009 12:55 PM

The way I see it at the moment,MotoGP is between a rock and a hard place.
WSB seems to be going from strength to strength with a production based formula of 1000cc fours (ok 1200 in the case of the Ducati twins)and almost total manufacturer support.
MotoGP however,by definition,has to be seen as the pinacle of motorcycle development,and is therefore "trapped" between WSB below it,and what is seen as an acceptable cost level (in today's difficult economic climate)above it.
Better brains than mine will surely sort this one out,but I for one can't see how,short of amalgamating WSB and MotoGP with a technical formula somewhere between the two.
What do you guys think?

The Darkside - Unregistered

December 02, 2009 1:32 PM

surely they should build the 1000's 4 gp again and have no traction cr4p and no restrictions in the rule book and make the monsters as fast as possible and leave it to the rider to iron-out any probs with his skill,....... slid it, wheeley it, spin it up, waiste the tyre in smoke round corners and bring it back a dripping heap of metal and completely knackered!.... excellent!! ! ! ! !

Dutch69Camaro - Unregistered

December 02, 2009 1:41 PM

They should go back to racing "real" prototypes. To me a prototype is a bike thas has been built to test and evaluate it prior to production. I mean Rossi should be racing the 2011 or 2012 R1 next season. So in 2011 or 2012 it would be available for the general public and can be used in WSB!
The M1 is far from not a real prototype but a high-end one off (well maybe more than one but you get the picture).
WSB doesn't want MotoGP to use production bikes (or parts like engines) but the use prototypes themselves. The Aprillia and BMW were raced well before anybody could get their hands on one...

John VFR - Unregistered

December 02, 2009 1:53 PM

@ The Darkside,I love the picture you paint!
That'll be "Doohan era" 500 two strokes then.Regrettably totally unlikely,but as a spectacle that's what I'd like to see too.Heroes on monsters,bring it on!

BB - Unregistered

December 02, 2009 1:54 PM

When the 4-stroke plan was announced, the factories stated the 500 two-stroke bike was at the end of its development. Doohan's NSR was just about the best 500 ever built. By that rational:

racing the 500's, without traction control, would bring down development costs considerably.

racing the 500's would solve any issue regarding MotoGP becoming too much like WSB, not being spectacular enough, any doubt about who are the world's best motorcycle racers.

YES, there will be no connection with the street models, but let's be honest, do you choose an R1 over a ZX10 because of Yamaha's wins in MotoGP? Do you buy a Bridgestone tyre for your streetbike because Rossi wins on them (slicks)?

tomorrow - Unregistered

December 02, 2009 1:59 PM

“And when we take the decision, either unanimously or by majority, the most important thing will be to stick with it. As soon as something is decided, people in our world tend to work against it.”

That'll be Honda then. They've never been able to accept a level playing field and never will.

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