MotoGP » Assen: MotoGP v WSBK


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aeolus

June 27, 2010 1:19 PM
Last Edited 1641 days ago

Which means that the Aprilia with 'stones, carbon brakes and a few tweaks could easily make the top 5 in MotoGP if not higher. Has MotoGP outlived it's usefulness?

LeisureSuit Larry - Unregistered

June 27, 2010 1:24 PM

Perhaps MotoGP is past it's sell-buy date.
Went to Silverstone to see a 14 bike procession, twice the ticket price compared with WSB. Moto2 has not the slightest interest to me. The 125 race was good but that is about to go to another poor man's Moto3. Actually, best race of the day was the British Superstock race, which tells you something.

Dickiebom - Unregistered

June 27, 2010 1:48 PM

Er have you all forgotton These are 800cc bikes against litre machines your comparing, so its hardly like for like. Smaller engines giving away 200c and still faster job well done by the engineers. Its Dorna to blame here. Tis boring though.

aeolus

June 27, 2010 1:55 PM

Yes, 800cc, but they have proved as fast as the 1000cc
generally. They were designed for the small riders graduating from the support classes. Incidentally, of the latest crop, only Simoncelli and Espargaro seem to be making the grade. I would expect Simoncelli to do very well on a 1000cc bike, as like Spies, he is too large for the 800s..

rusjel - Unregistered

June 27, 2010 1:56 PM

200cc smaller they may be, but they are also @20kgs lighter, depending on how many cylinders the WSBK bikes have.

In addition, I imagine that the Pirellis are not offering the same ammount of grip the Bridgestones are giving

Also, those 200cc smaller motors are allowed to run at a higher state of tune than the production based WSBK motors.

Wouldn't it be interesting to stick Loris on a Bridgestone shod, carbon braked WSBK bike and compare with the kit he has now?

Scarecrow

June 27, 2010 2:00 PM

MotoGP bike 220-230bhp 75-85ft/lbs 145kg £2m

WSBK bike 210-225bhp 90-95ft/lbs 162-168kg £0.3m

WSBK just need carbon breaks and a weight reduction

MotoGP needs to revert back to the 990cc monsters that we all loved

WSBK wins for the manafactures, the fans, TV coverage, the sponsors, the tracks and owners etc etc

aeolus

June 27, 2010 2:09 PM
Last Edited 1641 days ago

Has anybody checked WSS against Moto2 as to fastest time at Assen?

OK here they are
WSS 137.908
MotoGP 139.092

Not a fair comparison actually as Moto2 is a control engine with no tuning allowed. Another strike against MotoGP

kirk66

June 27, 2010 2:14 PM

Look- Scarecrow just made the argument of why it should be OK to run production based 1000cc bikes in GP.
Kids, it's all about money. It will simply be easier and cheaper to develop a race motor based on the OE motors. WSBK motors can easily be built to 240hp without all the expensive effects of grenading a GP motor. If open development means you have to have the same bore and stroke but all other party favors are still on the table then it will be cheaper to race. By how much depends on the teams at that point. But I certainly can see Tech 3 developing their own R1 based motor without intrusive help from Yamaha Corse. Chassis and suspension guys will all get raises.

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