MotoGP » Assen: MotoGP v WSBK


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aeolus

June 27, 2010 6:07 PM

I don't think WSBK needs to change at all. So MotoGP will have to change to attract entries which is the dire need now. As cost is the main problem, it will inevitably move closer to WSBK to the detriment to the series. Motorcycle sports would be much poorer without GP but the financial realities are against it. the latest is allowing 1000cc wildcards next year to add numbers to the grid.

DW - Unregistered

June 27, 2010 6:12 PM

Agreed kwikkwak ... & that is the problem the FIM is sitting with at the moment.

Previously, there was a distinct difference between Grand Prix racing & road going machines ... however, with the change from 2-stokes to 4-strokes on one side, & the increasingly track-like performance of production superbikes on the other, the 2 have been on a collision course for a while, but it is MotoGP that had become the less relevant of the two.

Even during the financial crisis WSBK has grown, while MotoGP has shrunk. That's because it makes more marketing sense for the manufacturers.
It will always be more accessible to privateer teams, even if it means small tweaks to the rules (like BSB Evo)

FooAtari - Unregistered

June 27, 2010 7:05 PM

Dray, I don't get your obsession and point with nationalities.

It's just a phase that changes every decade or so. 500cc in the 80's and 90's were mostly dominated by Americans and Australians.

I also think part of the problem is that in the USA and UK at least domestic racing is production based and there is very little backing and sponsorship for riders wanting to go the GP route. However 2 stroke bikes and racing is still very popular in Italy and Spain in comparison to other countries.

Finally Superbikes and MGP are a slightly different style of racing and IF the two series merged I don't think you would immediately see the top 10 MGP riders dominating superbikes should rules and...

python - Unregistered

June 27, 2010 7:08 PM

It's a pleasure reading the intelligent comments some of you post. I was not suggesting that there was any possibility 500cc would ever return. I meant that as GP moves farther from prototype racing and closer to production racing my interest in GP decreases. Since it appears prototypes are too expensive, just bag it and race superbikes. Plus it would be nice to see all the best riders in one class.

RawDawg

June 27, 2010 7:29 PM

"IF the two series merged I don't think you would immediately see the top 10 MGP riders dominating superbikes"

There isn't even a legit MotoGP candidate in WSBK right now.

The top 10 guys right now of Rossi, Jorge, Casey, Dani, Dovi, Hayden, Spies, Edwards, De Puniet, and Simoncelli would walk WSBK riders.

Biaggi, Checa, and Haslam could mix it up. And maybe Haga and Cal on a good day.

But c'mon - the WSBK grid is full of has beens, never will be's, and career WSBK riders. They have nothing for the MotoGP guys. A guy like JT who was no where in GPs has 4 podiums already. Ol' man Checa who placed 14th and 15th his last 2 years in MotoGP is pushing the front of WSBK.

Andrew Long

June 27, 2010 7:35 PM

With Motogp going to 1000CC bikes - there is going to be so much overlap with WSB that a merger between the two series would seem sensible to prevent a duplication of resources and lawsuits flying back and forth.

What I enjoy at the moment in BSB/WSB is the superstock class (600 and 1000) 'Lowish cost' real racing on 'street' machines with hungry youngsters trying to impress and take risks. This class should be encouraged in the future to keep costs down and bring talent along.

sbkfan - Unregistered

June 27, 2010 7:39 PM

Alot of intresting post.

Am british and I would rather see 1 awsome rider than 7 good riders.

The suzuki topic is intresting, surly just taken the 1000cc engine out of the gsxr and putting that lighter more powerfull moto gp engine in the bike would find that .2 difference in lap time, if the current gp bikes do suit 250cc bike design rather than previous 990 and 500 2 stroke design and riding style maybe thats why the suzuki is so bad as they havent developed a 250 style bike for ages. Moto gp is not a good advert for suzuki anyway you look at it and there with drawel can't be far away unless things are changed.

Andrew Long

June 27, 2010 7:44 PM

But Rawdawg - with the 125 and moto2 classes producing a conveyor belt of racers - where are they going to go when there are only 16 rides in Motogp. Plus do we really want to see riders like Toni Elias in Moto2 cos they cant get a job in Motogp ?

Plus I can think of 2 motogp riders who went to WSB and didn't hit off straight away - Biaggi and Guintoli (though Biaggi is looking for championship this year)

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