MotoGP » 1000cc to open MotoGP door for Brits?

"If they limit the 1000cc electronics, Superbike will be a great path to MotoGP and we'll see some Brits back here" - Nicky Hayden.

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Westminister - Unregistered

July 10, 2010 1:53 PM

Riders have no relationship to sales? What communist planet do you live on...? No capitalistic venture invests millions of dollars into motorcycles racing around, for the pure altruistic spirit of competition, especially if its chief source of capital is the manufacturing and sales of a specific items (i.e. Motorcycles). Then the nerve to naively imply idiocy for the correlation ?

How ironic...

Westminister - Unregistered

July 10, 2010 2:06 PM

Riders sponsorship are based on accomplishment, marketability, and to an extent, nationality. That is why Rossi is so sought after. That is why Lorenzo is trying to emulate Rossi's appeal. That is why Espargaro is hawking Derbi's discount program. Ask Mattia Pasini why he had a falling out with his sponsors, they sited his lack of ability to meet obligations (i.e. autograph events). That's why Aprilia recently released two motorcycles and a scooter baring Biaggi's livery. I personally listen to person after person ask Biaggi, when can they buy an RSV4 replica of his bike. That is why riders travel the world to appear at marketing events, to effect sales...


July 10, 2010 2:25 PM

Riders are part of the advertising package which also includes making new bikes available to the magazines, magazine advertising and TV. Personal appearances are written into the contract and are to sell bikes. If a bike is a front runner in a GP race, the sponsors logo is seen by millions. The leathers are plastered with logos. If it weren't for the advertising dollars, there wouldn't be any racing. I guess RawDog is a purest and thinks they do it for love of the sport.

Westminister - Unregistered

July 10, 2010 2:58 PM

Back to the topic @ hand...

With Rossi slotted to be on a Ducati.

Spies would replace Rossi at Yamaha, and with Suzuki's financial situation, it looks like Tech 3 has offered Leon Haslam a shot...

The Kenlucky Kid - Unregistered

July 10, 2010 7:15 PM

Saying Americans get rides because of "bike sales" is an insult that what they have achieved before they got their riders.... I guess since their are 5 Italians and 5 Spanish than the manufactures only sell bikes in Europe in those countries......
Posted by stawdawg

Yes and no. Sometimes are rider IS marketable and sometimes not. Max HAD something of loyal following until overshadowed by Rossi..until he got booted out due to bad attitude, GP's fan's negativity etc etc. The fact IS Hayden is GPs "Golden Boy" and Hayden was sold and marketed as such-taking the seat that should have been in the hands of CE. After finishing 8th in the WC his second year,another would have been fired.

The Kenlucky Kid - Unregistered

July 10, 2010 7:25 PM

part deux

But Hayden was NOT.In fact was signed for 2 more years. HRC bent over backwards for Hayden, despite BS from fans and Haydens marketing machine.Despite Haydens Golden Boy status, HRC had enough from Hayden, his fans and his marketing machine and thus showed him the door by offering a SAT ride (knowing Hayden would NOT accept).Ducati took Hayden for the same reason HRC did at first and in fact it has worked. Hayden replicas have sold out quickly despite lackluster results at LS.

However, Stoner is not a guy that sells, even if he wins. Fact is Hayden sell more in the american market than Stoner does worldwide.

The Kenlucky Kid - Unregistered

July 10, 2010 7:29 PM

Some as well as Hayden mentioned age. It is true, as spanish kids race on metrakits at a young age, and some start riding pocket bikes as young as 3. This also happends in motocross as well, although most go to racing asphalt. As far as the AMA 125gp, it is actually a total joke. American Garret Carter was despite winning in the US championship was unable to even qualify in spanish national GP. Also, Bradly Smith AND Stoner actually learned how to really race in Spain - both made the move - if not it would be Bradly, Stoner who?


July 10, 2010 8:26 PM
Last Edited 2122 days ago

It might be said the Nicky's performance fell off with the introduction of the 800cc bike that was designed for Dani. And that after giving them their last title he was treated shabbily, though it was clear by then he would never be a dominant rider. Nicky said when he first saw the 800cc it was so small he thought it was a joke. As it turned out Dani has not been able to deliver either and is effectively replaced by Stoner though Puig and Repsol money have kept him on the team, the message is clear.

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