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July 23, 2010 2:53 AM

"Having Rossi out of his vision Sete decides to come in closer to the curb. Almost at the same time Rossi seeing enough room for a pass goes for it. As Sete comes in closer to the curb the travel line Sete chose bumps him into Rossi.'

You know that "travel line" that Sete chose that's "closer to the curb"? It's called the apex of the corner on the racing line. Something that Rossi WAS NOT going to hit nor make the corner. Look at it from an overhead view and no way in hell was Rossi going to make that corner. Sete was already turning because he hit the correct marks for his braking to make the turn - Rossi didn't.

/I can't believe I had to explain that

BoxStockRacer - Unregistered

July 23, 2010 3:34 AM


The apex of a corner on a racetrack is, by definition, ON THE RACING LINE. You can't 'hit the apex' of a corner and be somewhere else on the track.

Keep in mind that different classes of bikes have different apexes in the same corner. There can be two and even three apexes in one turn.

Example: It is common to apex a 'square' corner in three different places. The first apex is on the inside of the corner on corner entry. The second apex would be on the far outside of the track, so as to get lined up to hit the third apex, which is on the inside of the corner exit.

In all cases, the apexes are ON THE RACING LINE, not some fictional geographic point on the curb.

cyclopathic - Unregistered

July 23, 2010 3:47 AM

re: I think as riding skills Sete was as good as Rossi. So was Biaggi. I think it was mentally where they were loosing. and that is how he beat them.

and this is how Flossi lost mental game to JLs "I wanna beat him on a equal bike". Since last Aug when JL got equal access to parts and esp after Cals crew chief joint JL beat VR fair and square.

VR going to Duc only confirms that he cant beat him on equal bike.


July 23, 2010 4:04 AM

I believe that Valentino Rossi already schooled Jorge Lorenzo for 2 years and beat him soundly. This year, we the fans lost a good opportunity to see them go at it completely. Even though rossi is back and the racing is set to continue....there are lots of factors that come into play. If Yamaha already know Rossi is going to Ducati, will he get their best effort. There should be a rule that stops contract negotiation so early in a World Championship. It should begin after maybe 75 to 80 percent of the races have been completed.


July 23, 2010 4:16 AM

@BoxStockRacer i understand well what you're saying.there is a number of travel lines that can be taken around the same corner each having a different apex.
I got confused momentarily on raw dawg's explanation and took apex to mean same as the outer most part of the (physical) corner/curb. indeed it is as you say, the outer most part of travel line.
thank you though for your explanation, it was nice of you.

Sukhoi 46

July 23, 2010 5:13 AM



@Take those damn Rossi tinted shades off!!!!!!

LOL, it's people like you who are biased and bunch of hypocrites. At least am honest unlike you.

@Read all the f'kin' post you Rossi jizz swoller before you go pointing the finger, making fictional..

Yep, only after reading your f'kin' snobbish posts I wrote my comments because I always observed you with hidden agendas. Fictional? Even a kid would get that it was about Rossi - aeolus and you stuffed it nicely!

@it's always the one's with "46" in their tag.....

Another loser excuse, let alone with any substance or merit!

Sukhoi 46

July 23, 2010 5:37 AM

@RawDawg - I almost find it fascinating that you actually think Sete turn into Rossi and Sete caused the incident.

Answer lies these Qs:

Did you see the pass of Lorenzo on Dani at the same track this year?
Did Lorenzo came into Dani or took him by going around?
Did they maintain the gap or not?
But, what if Lorenzo came into Dani to overtake?

If you could answer them then it would be more clear about that Rossi-Sete incident but you won't because you knew that there is no proper case against Rossi else Race Control would have definitely penalized him!

What say? Even Race Control guys are '46' fans? Don't give me such BS talk...Rossi haters like you are the real jizz swollers!

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