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Valentino Rossi's Ducati MotoGP debut compared with Nicky Hayden, Marco Melandri and Casey Stoner before him.

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KTMKen

December 12, 2010 3:37 AM

Yeah! THAT's where Ted wanted the conversation to go - it wasn't about Stoner having ridden a HONDA MotoGP bike before, right (and having a good chance of doing well on the current model next season)? It's all about linguistics :)

Ted, you bozo, you didn't dot your "I" !!!!! Therefore, anything you say pertaining to motorcycle racing is de facto invalid!

Sorry Ted, but this is as good as it gets out here trying to carry on a reasonable dialogue. I long for the day Crash makes everyone register.

DanMario

December 12, 2010 6:42 AM
Last Edited 1445 days ago

this article shows how fast, brilliant & super-unique skill that Stoner had. He was a trully fast rider on any bike he rode, while the others who has same machinery are struggle sometimes. I think Stoner always thought as a real racer, all he can think is riding fast & win, no matter how the bike goes. 4 years with duc, only he could win while the others struggle. That's why the duc paid Rossi to turn GP11 into a bike that anybody can win with it, just like rossi did on the M1 & Lorenzo take the sweet fruit now. Maybe rossi always thought as engeneer also, how to turn this beast into a friendly-ride to the rest of duc riders so anybody can be competitive & win. So why bother to look for a best lap time. What Rossi cares was how to solve the problem first. It's only one test....... Let see what he can do with Duc.....

casey's mate - Unregistered

December 12, 2010 7:06 AM

@ danmario,if your a fan of gp's you will know how much pull rossi has and duc,sponsors,marbo,and italy will want to have a combine victory,this crap about making a bike for everyone is crap,every rider is for themselves are if your blind,then take the hand off the gearstick.,This partnership has to work or else?

Southerner

December 12, 2010 7:10 AM

The real issue pertaining to the Valencia test is not how well Casey did on the 800 Honda with the electronics virtually turned off, but rather how quickly Randy got to grips with the D16 as compared to Rossi.
It will be a disaster for them 2011 if Rossi is not in the title hunt after 6 races.
An even bigger disaster if Nicky,Randy and Loris are trading places with Rossi race in and race out while George,Ben,Casey,Dani and Simmo are the ones trading places in the title hunt.
A Melandri style 2008 Ducati debut in the making amidst all the hype.Back then another Frenchman on a sattelite Ducati,Silvain Guintoli pipped the highly touted Melandri in the final reckoning.
No predictions,but its funny how history has this nasty habit of repeating itself.

casey's mate - Unregistered

December 12, 2010 7:36 AM

So true southerner as the only person with the up date will be vale,till half way thru the year if and rossi lets him have it.The funny thing will be if it works or they keep throwing frames at him till they get it right,which they will.

DanMario

December 12, 2010 8:17 AM

@casey's mate: Oh BTW i watched GP since rossi never been there, circa 1994. Yes maybe you're right it's all about all italian dream team. But face it. It's all about selling & bussiness and if you want to stay racing in GP you have to give everything to make you stay on GP. Is not always about every man for him self. Rossi is not forever. And it proofed with Yamaha now. Yam succeded to taste what so called it a nice legacy from Rossi. Rossi gone, but they have the bike that he already developed and Jorge already tasted it to win with it & maybe Spies is the next. What Casey did is superb, but he did it for him self. The Duc want more than winning with Casey only. But They also want to win even Casey not there. So they want Rossi's legacy on the Duc for the future. All italian dream team is just a coincident. It's all about staying alive at GP jungle.

Tax Dodger - Unregistered

December 12, 2010 9:30 AM

@DanMario.

What you say rings very true Dan, as well as Ducati only selling MotorBikes !..Honda and Suzuki sell all sorts of cars,marine products etc and Yamaha sell everything from bikes to musical instuments,audio etc.

If Ducati can sell more sportsbikes via rossi/burgess turning the GP11 into a rider friendly winner..on the other hand if rossi/burgess fail and with no WSBK presence to speak of Ducati could be in very big trouble.

Cheers .

Southerner

December 12, 2010 11:07 AM

Very aptly posted Tax Dodger.
Suzuki can even afford to dump a department of their business in the interests of the bigger picture. Ducati can't.The media hype surrounding the 'good old boys'assembly in Bologna is perhaps diversionary.
Rossi is quoted the other day as saying euphemistically that the shoulder op still hurts bad.
Even Biaggi at the Motosprint awards wished him well and Colin straight as usual,suggested Rossi will have to adapt to the bike.
As a Ducati loyalist,my 2 cents to them would be to focus totally on the constructor's title,thereby giving every rider the same options timeously and see how it pans out.
The Bologna 'think tank' goes deeper than starting a bike.Business also on the line.

Bob Buttamasangy

December 12, 2010 11:51 AM
Last Edited 1445 days ago

CRASH, Stavros made a very sensible and accurate post yesterday that even all the Flo fans would have begrudgingly agreed with I'm sure. If he included one of your 'naughty' words, why can't you be sensible enough just to exclude/edit that word and leave the guts of the post intact?
When you leave a message on my post that indicates you thought the message was relevant, but you didn't like my delivery, can you at least give me a hint as to what the hell I wrote about, so I have a chance to convert it from Australian to english?
Much appreciated,
Bob.
EDIT by CRASH.NET:
If you guys insist on abusing riders or fans the posts will go. If you want them to stay, do it without abuse. Simple.

Motojunky..

December 12, 2010 10:07 PM
Last Edited 1445 days ago

Thanks CRASH.
Whilever Bob's arguing with you guys, everyone else can stop worrying about being chopped down or belittled.

And Bob, how come your smart enough (or so you think)to have all the answers to the questions in the Moto GP world, but can't figure out what CRASH deems as inappropriate?

God luck with big brother(crash), look forward to your posts without all the self opinionated comments about other posters.
EDIT by CRASH.NET:
The chopping down and belittling won't be tolerated any more. People can once again post without all the abuse.

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