MotoGP » Ducati debuts: Rossi, Hayden, Melandri, Stoner


Valentino Rossi's Ducati MotoGP debut compared with Nicky Hayden, Marco Melandri and Casey Stoner before him.

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flea slider - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 2:21 PM

These stats confirm what we know. In the 800cc era you either click with the desmosedici from the world go, or youve got a lot of work ahead to turn things around.

Stoner fast at the start, great next season. Hayden and Melandri slow at the start, average (hayden)/shocking (melandri) next season.

Name one rider who started badly on the ductai and went on to take podiums or vice versa was top 6 on debut then went backwards?

Rossi being Rossi he can certainly break the trend. But, unless it was his shoulder, don't underestimate the work he needs to do.

farkash - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 2:24 PM

I am a frequent crash.net reader and this is so far the most useless article i've read here so far.
I remember Casey being the fastest in the pre-season testing of 2007, 2008 and 2009. In two 2008 he was even over half a second faster than the 2nd (Rossi) in Jerez i guess, but he had no chance against Rossi as the season begun, in 2009 he wasn't even a threat for Rossi and Lorenzo.
With this said lets not just compare the timing and predict for the upcoming season. Lorenzo wasn't the fastest man by the pre-season testing for 2010 but he kicked everyones ass.
And yes i am Rossi fan, but Lorenzo was the better man this year even though Rossi got injured.. this is racing as the guys say.

RawDawg

December 10, 2010 2:43 PM

The only "conclusion" that I can draw from this after looking at it a few times is what we already know - the bike hasn't been very good and Ducati has done FA to make it better as long as Casey could bag some wins and podiums.

And I'll say it once again, Ducati has found themselves in a pinch. No longer can they say "nothing is wrong with our bike - look at Casey" because Casey isn't there to mask the problems. They can't tell Rossi it's all in his head and to go see a shrink like they did Melandri.

2011 - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 2:45 PM

Casey knows well to adapt fast and Rossi, I think, don't want to adapt if he can make it better by means of developing. On the other hand Casey tried to resolve front end issue by switching to last year's fork (Melandri's style of development)and don't forget those harder handlebars that won't brake when he falls.
Altough Ducati is fun to watch this is bin it or win it bike, if Rossi succeed Ducati will probably be fast boring bike.

hoppy

December 10, 2010 2:48 PM

All this tells us was how good Casey has been on the Ducati over the years.He has had the ability to ride around problems that the other ridres havent been able to.But we knew that already.But,i do think Vale is going to have to make a better show in Sepang or people may start to get a little nervous!
We will watch and see!

Lozza - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 2:52 PM

You hit the nail on the head RawDawg, Stoner was the man for them but they really only gave him the bike in 2007. I think they stuffed things up with him with the Lorenzo offer, if I was Stoner I think I would have pulled a sickie and gone fishing too.

Madara - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 3:10 PM

What it tells me is in 2007 Ducati gave stoner a fast race craft balanced enough to win 10 races and win the World title. And from 2008 on with Stoner leading the way in development for Ducati the bike has got less rideable and won less races and no more World titles.

Now end of 2010 Stoner switched to Honda looks like the bike is working for him well, he is immediatly fast like he was with Ducati in 2007 will he win the title again ? who knows.

As for Rossi I think he will have the bike to about where Hayden had it this year. First few races i see him running in the pack 3rd-6th. Then of course he will find the step Hayden and the others just couldn't to actually challenge for race wins.

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