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Valentino Rossi's Ducati MotoGP debut compared with Nicky Hayden, Marco Melandri and Casey Stoner before him.

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aeolus

December 10, 2010 3:31 PM
Last Edited 1359 days ago

So, did or did not Rossi turn the pumpkin that was the 2003 Yamaha into a winner?
And can he turn the 2010 Duc into a winner. The Aussies here say the GP10 is a piece of cr*p and it's only Stoner's brilliance as a rider that has garnered wins for the beast. So let's settle it now if Rossi has a very good 2011: is it his magic as a developer? The litmus test will be how well Hayden does

vonich - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 3:32 PM

this is no comparison between riders. as for rossi's fans including me don't expect rossi's will win the 2011 championship like what he did with yamaha on his firts year.. the competition now is so high for him to replecate what he did back then. unless ducati pull ut a rabbit out of their hats like '07 when casey dominated the series. everybody knows how good that bike out of the box whereas yamaha and honda struggles..anyway i'm not counting rossi's out and discrediting casey. time will tell who will be crown and i can't damn wait any longer.. as for spies i'm sure he will be in top four replacing dovi in this year order with a shout on top 3..

vonich - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 3:44 PM

aeolus.. the ducati 2010 is already a winner bike. rossi don't need to turn it into a winner bike.. he simple just need to refine it to his liking as his riding style is completely different from casey..

Joe Blow - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 4:04 PM

Preziosi on Rossi's Ducati Test: "I asked Val a favor: Not to work on searching for lap times because that requires time to work on all aspects of set up. The main goal for that test was to decide which firing order we use. We don't need to be really fast until Qatar."

"Valentino is very accurate in his feedback. But even so, the most surprising thing about him is the way he describes what is happening with the bike and how calm he is. He found the good things in all the configurations we tried and he explained why the bad things were not working."

Llort Murof - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 5:09 PM

Excellent article crash! Really good comparison demonstrating, at last, how good stoner is by putting his nearest rival on the same machine! Pity that rossi and stoner are not in the same team, now that would be something. Just shows to go how stoner has flattered the duc over the past 4 seasons, no doubt that will ease the minds of the, many, riders who mounted the duc and failed...

No doubt duc will sort there machine now they don't have a rider capable of taming it, but at least if rossi fails to get to grips with it he can blame new regulations on gps tech, because, obviously, all stone r's success was sure to his electronics package.....

darren - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 5:40 PM

Don't know why everyone (Rossinisti it seems) is slagging the article off, as it provides an intersting perspective on Rossi's move to Ducati. The move to Ducati should be easier than his move to Yamaha, as the Ducati has been more successful than the M1 was before Rossi's switch, that said, only Stoner has truely mastered the Desmo.

Critics (Rossi fan-boys) cited Stoner's ability to recklessly twist the throttle and let the electronics sort it out as the reason behind his success, in effect indicating that he was quick because he was less able than others... Obviously his amazingly advanced electronics were amazingly adavanced even compared to his team-mates who could get no where near him. Rossi on the other-hand has always been credited his success due to his riding ability - despite nearly all the M1s being quick in recent years. I for one hope he toils for a bit before Ducati sort the bike. It's nothing against Rossi who is obviously one of the class riders of the field, but I ju

darren - Unregistered

December 10, 2010 5:42 PM

-st want his fans to shut up for a while.

Hopefully Honda will provide Casey with a good bike and Yamaha don't rest on their laurels.

Roll on 2011!

RawDawg

December 10, 2010 5:45 PM
Last Edited 1359 days ago

"What it tells me is in 2007 Ducati gave stoner a fast race craft balanced enough to win 10 races and win the World title. And from 2008 on with Stoner leading the way in development for Ducati the bike has got less rideable and won less races and no more World titles."

You would be wrong.

The bike hasn't gotten "less ride able" - it wasn't ride able for the other riders in the first place. And the reason it's won less races has more to do with the fact that Yamaha and Honda sorted their pneumatic valve engines not to mention they have always handled better than the Duc. The Ducati uses a desmo system that can produce higher revs (which makes more power) than conventional spring valve engines. In 2007 Yamaha and Honda were caught with their pants down by not having their high revving pneumatic valve engines ready.

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