MotoGP » Lorenzo concerned by Silverstone pace


"I tried to ride the same pace as last year but I was one second slower" - Jorge Lorenzo.

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fan - Unregistered

June 10, 2011 9:27 PM

@ @ Jonsey... last week at catalunya Rossi's race time was quicker on the duke than what stoners was the previous year! So what does that tell ya????????????
Posted by ROSSI THE LION others are pussys

So over the entier race Rossi was .7 seconds faster than Stoner, which translated to an average of 0.03043 seconds faster per lap. WOW Rossi is the MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stoner set a faster lap time than Rossi and also finished third, what does that tell ya?????????

Antagonista - Unregistered

June 10, 2011 10:08 PM

Lorenzo is MotoGP's version of Sebastian Vettel. The best the sport has ever seen with an infinite number of detractors trying to make sense of it in their own minds, however feeble they may be. Lorenzo is Metronomic in his racecraft, and while it is not always the fastest it has proven time and again that is the way to acheive long term race results, fewer accidents and ultimately more championships. Sling dirt on him all you want but he will be here for a long time to come!

Schnertz in California

June 10, 2011 10:11 PM

OK BOYS AND GIRLS... TODAYS LESSON: DO Riders Develop the bikes...

It's an engineering department and Hi 7 to LO 8 figures spent in the design houses. The rider is the tool for feedback. Last time I read anywhere that any rider was a design engineer in racing/engine technologies, was NEVER! The term development is not approapriate...They are merely like Test Pilots are to say Lockheed, or General Dynamics... with alot larger salary, and some fame, but not nearly as lauded over in bar as when the pilots roll in for a few cold ones at the end of a mission/test/sortie, etc. Alot of Pilots Ride for fun. And alot are engineers. So.. Rider =test pilot with $$$(but not nearly as smart as a test pilot)
Engineers develop the solutions related to the machine allowing the rider to extract the most from it.

Westminister - Unregistered

June 10, 2011 10:22 PM

To say that bike needs more power in relation to the competition is a misnomer, It's a broken record repeated season after season. The Yamaha has always been the least powered bike out of the Honda and Ducati's, and it has won three out of the four seasons of the 800cc era thus far...

Each of Yamaha's seasons won, by the smoothest riding machines on the grid. Even Spies and Edwards on satellite versions of the bikes, usually placed the highest or there or there about, of the non factory efforts nearly every year...


Lorenzo is limited in his knowledge of development, power is the only thing he knows to be focused on, when it's butter that he should be concentrating on...




evel ken evil - Unregistered

June 10, 2011 10:25 PM

SCHNERTZ

thats all very well and good but. youre forgetting the quality of feedback that varies from rider to rider, ergo if you have a rider who cannot give detailed feedback on how the bike is behaving then the engineers are lost at sea and the team will go backwards because theres no direction to go on

after all

we can all say i need more power /grip but perhaps not all of us can suggest ideas on how to achieve those goals

Westminister - Unregistered

June 10, 2011 10:33 PM

@Schnertz in California

You are toying with semantics, feedback by a pilot that can articulate the behaviour of a machine in response to a direction of engineering, makes that person a development pilot... Hence, he develops the bike...

Most factory racing efforts are comprised of two pilots, one that develops and one that can race whatever you give them, both in general are fast, only one is faster than the other. The fastest is usually the winner of the season, but not necessarily from the same team...

However, the condescension in your post was somewhat entertaining...


Westminister - Unregistered

June 10, 2011 10:48 PM

The best example of someones affect on development was from Yamaha, from 2007 to 2008. Rossi complained about power in the 2007, but harped on the fact that the tyres were not nearly as competitive as the Bridgestone's of the Ducati... The following year in 2008, the biggest change to the bike was the tyres, and the still underpowered Yamaha defeated the mighty Ducati for the title...

I think, if it had been any other pilot than Rossi, Yamaha would have meddled with the bike, and possible made it worse. Perfect example of that mistake, Ducati from 2008 -2010...


justforfun - Unregistered

June 10, 2011 11:23 PM

Attention Honda and Stoner: Please don't embarass us too much in this race or even the whole season. We are trying our best to keep up and since we don't have a sponsor we lack the funds for new technology. We are struggling and we need help!!

Thanks for your understanding,

Yamaha Factory

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