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Full qualifying times from the British MotoGP at Silverstone, round 6 of 18.

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Mark - Unregistered

June 11, 2011 6:21 PM

I really do think Ducati is in deep trouble. It seems the more they try to fix the bike, the worse it gets.
This bike is fundamentally flawed, and until they redesign the L4 engine into a V4 to get more weight on the front tire, nothing is going to fix it.
Stoner was able to ride around the bikes faults and hang it out further than anyone else, which is a tribute to his talent, Rossi is trying to get the bike to do what he wants, as he's not prepared to take the same risks as Stoner did. I think Stoner realized that he was no longer willing to take the same risks this year if he wanted to stay in one piece this season.

The Ducati factory needs to realize that the bike is flawed, and admit that nothing short of a complete redesign is going to improve things.

The only hope is that next years GP12 engine is dramatically shorter, if it's the same configuration, you can kiss any hope of a successful season next year goodbye too.

hoppy

June 11, 2011 6:47 PM

Pack it in with the Rossi hate for Christ sake guys!
There is noone on this site who is a bigger fan of Casey than me,but i for one am not enjoying the sight of Val struggling the way he is.Whether you love the guy or hate him you cant deny it is not the same without him at the sharp end of the fight.I know some of his fans can be bloody irritating at times but then again,so can Caseys!
I genuinely hope he can get that bloody bike to work soon so we can have some good old fashioned racing.Peace!

Ritchie - Unregistered

June 11, 2011 7:06 PM

@Hoppy.
Thank you mate.That is the most unbiased comment i have read today and the most intelligent.Glad to see there are still some true fans out there.I am a huge fan of Rossi and appreciate a Stoner fan being so honest!
Cheers.

Uccio - Unregistered

June 11, 2011 7:08 PM

Vale and I have an announcement. Now that Vale is riding slower than almost everybody else we are having a reversal of arrangements at our house. Vale will be washing my smalls and waxing and polishing every little thing. When we play ball, I will be pitching and he will be catching. Vale will be handing me his pay packet - unopened - and I will be dispensing pocket money only. He will be able to have a little bonus money if he is able to qualify in the top dozen at future races but in the meantime he will be a very busy boy at chez Uccio-Vale.

Peace, out, mo$os.

Unfortunately Pedrosa is out and Rossi is going down, but Simmo seems to be the only one growing up to the task of fighting a super Stoner. Lorenzo-in-the-middle has the championship frame of mind, but he is not up to par speedwise.

Rossi should be the only one at Stoner's level, but time has passed and he is past his best.

I must say that Rossi's current (and future) form does not diminish any of his past achievements: after so many domination it is only natural that his experience plays against him. Adapting to a new bike is a lot more difficult from an "old" champion, seeing as how he won all that he won with a certain framework that always served him well. Now that he needs another way of riding, working, viewing racing it is almost impossible to change. If he was a run-of-the-middle racer it would be easier to "start again"...!

BillAce is 100% right in one thing: riders (like Stoner but, really, all the others too) are paid to win races and championships, or at the least, to run as fast as they can and get the best results they can... NOT to "develop" bikes.

That development / set-up myth is a bit unnerving to me. Sure, every rider has to direct the team to a set-up that serves them better and has to provide input to the engineers, but that's basically what all of them do, some better than others. But that day-to-day work cannot transform bad bikes to automatic winners. Riders win races. Good bikes help good riders win races. "Development skills", however, don't make that much difference!

CA - Unregistered

June 11, 2011 7:51 PM

Even with a devellopment budget the VR/JB combination seem to be making slow to little progress with the GP11.
Other than the GP7 most other Ducati MGP racers have been a hit or miss outcome with apparently little money left for devellopment except when VR came onboard.
When your lead rider is so far off the pace how can you rely on any data collected?

Looks like some big decisions will have to be made at Ducati as the new GP12 could be in the same boat performance wise as the GP8/9/10/11.

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