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The decision was taken to focus on existing grand prix teams when considering who to include on next year's MotoGP grid.

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Mugello - Unregistered

June 15, 2011 7:38 PM

On Tue and Wed Mika Kallio was testing in Mugello with Suter MarcVDS 1000cc bike. I think it was first time when GP rider was testing CRT.

Would be interesting to hear comments compared to Pramac Ducati...

wadcutter - Unregistered

June 15, 2011 8:10 PM

Right then..... its about time I bolted them 2 cr500 motors together and slapped them in my c90.

If its full fat superbike engines in prototype chassis then the factory's should be worried, the lap times on same circuit is not far off, with a bit less weight and more grip its a close call.
should be good.

Liam - Unregistered

June 15, 2011 8:13 PM

@Mugello even better... compare the Marc VDS 1000cc to the 2012 Ducati that was also at Mugello yesterday with Hayden and today with Rossi, it would be interesting to hear where he compared on that to the two factory Ducati's of next year.

not fooling anyone. - Unregistered

June 15, 2011 8:46 PM

Pam.......at least the Rossi coming last had a chance of coming first!
I will let you sit down and figure that one out!

Nebar,showing your true colours again.You like to have a little dig at Stoner whenever you can dont you?
You are subtle though,i will give you that!

Westminister - Unregistered

June 15, 2011 8:47 PM


Just because a a group can afford to field a team does not mean they belong there. Cardion AB was a good fit for Moto2, not Moto1. Anyone, can qualify well, doesn't mean that will translate into race distance. Honestly, did anyone think Abrahams was going to finish before Rossi..?

I am a big fan of the RSV-4, but even Hoffman doubt's it's competitiveness. If Aprilia and BMW really want to be in Moto1, then they should field a proper effort...

In the 800 era, the satellite Ducati of Pramac, the Hondas of LCR & Gresini, and most recently the Yamaha of Tech3 have made the rostrum. Some of these bikes even fought for pole...

I'd rather see Iannone or Bradl on satellite Ducati's, than languishing on bikes that would be a couple of seconds off the Pramac Ducati's pace... The potential for a Satellite team is there, it can be done...

The situation is enough to make Abraham seems like the best of rest once the CRT teams are introduced... But the CRT teams are just space fillers, I'd rathe

fan - Unregistered

June 15, 2011 8:57 PM

@ westminister

You have absolutely zero clue what a CRT bike can or cannot do. The biggest advantage that the CRT will have is the 3 extra liters of fuel, which is huge.

The CRTs will not need the advanced electronics to regulate the fuel during deceleration to keep the wheels in line. The machines will not have to lean as much if at all to make race distance.

Using a CRT engine will allow them to do what they want to do with the engine. Most leased engines from Honda/Ducati/Yamaha are only allowed to be opened by a rep from the manufacturer. The teams themselves are not allowed to mess with them.

A satelite team has not podiumed enough to even try and justify the dismissal of the CRT's. Even Spies last year never had a shot of winning (much to my sadness the same as this year it seems).

WWE - Unregistered

June 15, 2011 9:07 PM

"I think it's funny when people make statements that basically say anyone not up front shouldn't be racing. There will always be someone in the back. You could clone 20 Rossi's and put them on equal bikes and still one of them would be last.
Posted by Pam"

Why clone Rossi? He's a backmarker anyways.


Westminister - Unregistered

June 15, 2011 9:11 PM

@ wjam

I know this escapes your comprehension, but to the challenged, this is a discussion board regarding Motogp, not keyboard jockeys.

I doubt most, if not all on crash.net would even be able to prevent from being lapped in a Moto2 race, let alone score a point in Moto3...

However, I would have no problem testing your racing nerve against mine, on a motorcycle or a bicycle...

Moto GP madness - Unregistered

June 15, 2011 9:36 PM

Moto GP has its top riders yes and it always will but FIM should give privateers more balance as factory teams have the support.
What incentive does anyone really have as factory bikes will dominate every year vs a strapped private bike?

The plus is more bikes on the grid so its a start but the party poopers in charge need to make dispensations to other teams to attract the sponsors.
If you were a rider im sure you would rather be in Moto GP than Moto 2 which i think is a much tougher category at the moment as its more or less equal with greater numbers.

Everyone said Moto2 wont work, it does work as its the balance that makes it great each round, apply that to Moto GP with the less fortunate teams and we may see some great action.

PS
Anyone know why corporate muppets with loads of cash are VIP at Moto GP and the 7/8.9ths of the population that pack the stands each round and keep it in business are not VIP?
Dorna and FIM sort it out, if they have the money get it on the grid!

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