MotoGP » Hayden GP11.1 debut, Rossi sticks with new bike


"We're just trying to decide which bike will give us the best chance for a good result on Sunday" – Nicky Hayden.

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wtf - Unregistered

July 23, 2011 1:18 AM

"Today he was ninth in the cool morning practice and .170 sec. behind teammate Hayden, who found little difference between the bikes and set his time on the new one, though incrementally. That helped convince Rossi to stick with the GP11.1 for the remainder of the weekend."


Hayden has set his best times on the gp11.1 straight out of the box, he will only improve on these times with more laps and bike exposure.

What does this say about Rossi who has now had a number of races under his belt with the new bike???

It's Vale who is heading backwards AND NOT THE BIKE.

Ducati should be looking for all their data from Hayden...its their only reliable source.

ritchy - Unregistered

July 23, 2011 1:23 AM

Ducati will never win another WC while they use a CF frame. Last time it was used on a GP bike was back in 1990 by Cagiva in the hands of Ron Haslam and Randy Mamola 'Quote' "The suspension setup and feedback from the carbon frame is so fundamentaly different that their normal bike adjustments and suspension settings no longer worked and that the bike raised more questions than it answered". Ducati please give it up Carbon fibre will never work as good as twin spar alloy.

dingo - Unregistered

July 23, 2011 1:41 AM

@ritchy,

"The suspension setup and feedback from the carbon frame is so fundamentaly different that their normal bike adjustments and suspension settings no longer worked and that the bike raised more questions than it answered".

That was from a long time ago and Ducati have reams of information.

Here's the thing....If Rossi/Burgess are the development and setup kings, why have they not done better than Stoner and his team did when they were on it?????

Excuses are finished in my book, Vito, Rossi, Burgess, you have all exposed yourselves big time.

How much longer can you lay blame on Stoner??? the next 10 years....what a farce.

ritchy - Unregistered

July 23, 2011 1:50 AM

dingo, yes it was a long time ago, though Burgess should of remembered Cagivas fail with the Carbon Frame and should of talked Rossi out of signing with Ducati, Rossi would of been better off taking a huge paycut and joined up with Suzuki, he would of had better results for sure and being a 1 bike team it would of suited him.

Krusty The Klown - Unregistered

July 23, 2011 1:58 AM

The Ducati discussion is really getting old. It is apparent that changing suspension, swing arms, forks, etc. is at best only going to to partially mask a major design flaw and not make the Duc a consistent competitive bike. Only casey could ride around the flaws and even he had front end problems after the switch to the carbon "frame".

Ducati fan - Unregistered

July 23, 2011 2:00 AM

@ritchy

I completely agree with you, they have that distorted and misguides concept of what a race bike should be and are completely ruining the Ducati racing reputation that took so many years to build, with this persistance on completely radical concepts and extremely weird structure of the frame of their gp bike. Please, dont get me wrong, I dont mean to disrespect Mr Preziozi, but when i hear about technical details of his creations on the latest demosedici s, i just wonder how the hell can those things make sense in an engineers mind? There must be something very wrong with the concepts of the bikes structure.One thing is to be innovative, and the other is being unrealistic, wich I think applys.

There has to be a way to get these opinions (im not the only one who thinks this way about their gp bike) to reach the ears or the eyes of someone responsible at ducati, because they need to make a change as sson as possible,as its dificult for a bike, especially ducati fan to have to w

roadrash - Unregistered

July 23, 2011 2:06 AM

Casey ran a 121.3 Laguna track record last yr on the ducati.

Rossi ran a 123.5 and a 123.4 today.
Hayden ran a 123.3 and a 123.2 today.

Both ducati riders ran a whole 2 seconds slower today on the newest, most state of the art ducati. Wrong way boys. wtf.

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