MotoGP » Hayden steps it up for sixth, Rossi 'better'


"We know race distance around here is a long, hard day, but that's why you put in the time doing the training. Hopefully we can have a good race tomorrow and have some fun" - Nicky Hayden.

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Roston Sponge - Unregistered

October 22, 2011 10:07 PM

moto2rulz, well said.

Rossi is having a terrible year and the haters are loving every minute of sticking the knife in. Thing that's really silly is when someone says he's a "fraud" and is a mediocre rider and has only won 9 titles due to no competition, best biket etc etc and then loads of people agree. Very many haters on this board at the moment.

Go Rossi, we still love ya no matter what...

screechin' weasel - Unregistered

October 22, 2011 10:08 PM

I think the reason Rossi USED to carry so much corner speed is because he used to ride a bike that was designed to carry corner speed. He's not on the Yamaha anymore, and needs to adapt. Yes, he needs to ride the bike like Stoner did.

Both of them would be better on different bikes: Rossi back on the Yammie, and Hayden on this year's Honda (factory, not satellite - no one is ever gonna perfom on an also-ran LCR or Gresini). Even the Zook would probably suit them both better, especially Rossi.

But we'll never really know. Unless the whole grid gets out there one day, all on the same exact kit, we'll never know what percentage of success is bike, or rider, or sponsorship money.

kiwimike

October 22, 2011 10:56 PM

@screechin' weasel, like your alias, suits. Good to have posters who know how to ride a MotoGP bike. Pity you are not a team manager. Should submit your CV to Ducati who obviously could use your incredible expertise.

Jake - Unregistered

October 22, 2011 11:23 PM

Don't you just love jokers like Bridgestone and Ron and others who keep saying...oh, if only Lorenzo and Spies were there they would out-qualify Rossi....so "REALLY" he should be 11th etc ...the point is they aren't there ... for a reason...they binned it in spectacular fashion. Obviously part of the reason why Rossi has won 9 World chamionships across 4 classes is because he rides in a controlled and technical manner within the limits of the bike. This works perfectly with a bike like the Yamaha. These factors are responsible for his awful season , but he is trying to change the bike to suit this approach...and it takes time. Although if he cannot crack it soon it will be time for a big change or a move.

daddyrat

October 22, 2011 11:23 PM

@moto2rulz

I reckon some people do not like Rossi and are happy for his misfortunes because off his mind games and derrogative, demeaning and insulting comments in the past. Maybe if he wouldn't have resorted to these kind of tactics and given his fellow riders/ rivals a bit more respect at the time, he would not have to run this gauntlet now. I personally do not hate him and almost feel sorry for him, but then I just remeber how he rode against Casey at Laguna Seca and few years back or against Lorenzo in Japan and how he belittled them for not beeing man because they do not bully like himself. Comments like the ones how he will turn the Duc around in 80 sec. and no one rides as hard as him are coming back to bite him. That's really all that is happening. A bit of humility a long time ago would have served him well and gone a far way right now, with the situation he's in. And that he's not the best rider on the bike he developed and changed around so many times this season doesn't he

Jake - Unregistered

October 22, 2011 11:28 PM

@daddyrat
Bully? You mean RACING hard against fellow competitors and adding a bit of excitement to proceedings? Jeez I think Rossi must have been right if that and a few mild comments are enough to make the other boys in the paddock cry.

daddyrat

October 22, 2011 11:37 PM

@Jake
no one cried. they all just voiced their disagreement with is antics. You do not see him now racing so aggressively and I would bet he would not appreciate one little bit with the bike he's on. This humility thing is the crucial point. A person might be good or extremely good at something but will never be great or universally admired if that quality is not present. And unfortunately Valentino is missing out big time in that department.

Tetley - Unregistered

October 22, 2011 11:37 PM

" @Daddyrat - I reckon some people do not like Rossi and are happy for his misfortunes because off his mind games and derrogative, demeaning and insulting comments in the past."
This is just normal in most sports these days. Trying to out-psyche your opponents is part of the modern game - just look at the Ozzie cricket team and how they barrack the opposition's batsmen. Rossi was just doing what Doohan and Mladin did, and what Stoner would do if he was clever and witty. At this level, a sportsman's comments are for effect, they just want to get under their opponents skin. Mohammed Ali, one of the world's most popular sportsmen, was an expert at it. It also makes good press and good promotion, and Rossi's rivals get bigger pay because of Rossi's PR skills.

daddyrat

October 22, 2011 11:52 PM

@ Tetley
I agree with your reasoning but that does not make that kind of behavior any better or more acceptable.
Sure it gets under the skin but is it necessary?
Would Casey be really more clever or witty if he'd display that kind of style. Well in my eyes he's more clever because of not doing it. It shows maturity and respect towards his fellow competitors. I reckon the most telling things of all is that Casey seems to have a friend in Jorge or at least they seem to be getting on really well, whereas Valentino seems to standing there all alone. I have not heard any of the other riders speaking out in his defense or supporting him ,yet.

Roston Sponge - Unregistered

October 23, 2011 12:03 AM

"but then I just remeber how he rode against Casey at Laguna Seca and few years back or against Lorenzo in Japan and how he belittled them for not beeing man because they do not bully like himself."

Absolute nonsense. After Laguna the whole world over applauded Rossi on his sheer pit-bull racing spirit and laughed at a cocky Casey for being a whining girl who expected to win ("Casey do you have any doubts about the race tomorrow?" Casey: "none"). Rossi did not put Casey down, he simply said "this is racing". Like all haters you are making things up!

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