MotoGP » Stoner snatches Valencia victory from Spies

Casey Stoner wins the season-ending Valencia MotoGP by 0.015sec, four riders down at turn one.

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November 06, 2011 4:52 PM

Gee, some of these posts aren't bitter at all!

Let's not forget the great job Yamaha did. Cal Crutchlow put his satellite machine in front of all the factory Hondas in the wet free practice, and in front of one of them in the race (yeah ... the satellite Yamaha).

And if it wasn't for CASEY, they would have won today and won the championship this year.


November 06, 2011 4:53 PM
Last Edited 1559 days ago


Interesting post. I'm intrigued by your HRC theory. So you think HRC should get the credit rather than Stoner? Hmmm... Can you answer the following questions -

How many premier class world champions have there been who have had to compete against 3 other riders on the same machine (and tyres)?

How do you explain how Stoner so completely out-performed the other 3 riders on the same machine? Do we give the credit to HRC for this too?

How does your HRC theory gel with the fact that if it was not for Stoner, Yamaha would again have won the championship - without Jorge competing in the final 3 races, the same number of races missed by Pedrosa?

Interested in your thoughts on these questions.

bill smith - Unregistered

November 06, 2011 5:11 PM
Last Edited 1559 days ago

Well done dovi in the championship i see this lad a real threat next year to Stoner.If he would have been given the bits & peace's as Stoner and pedrosa he might have been a threat.Honda and some of the team knew dovi was not going to be in the honda team for 2012 so just give him enough gas and a ride to keep the quiet and try to fend off other teams.And it worked.


November 06, 2011 5:29 PM

re: "Cant still quite make out how Stoner got the speed at the last second"

i can. what are the dimensions of the grid boxes at valencia...? are they an FIM standard...? if so, from a bike length back (sans draft), stoner's superior power/weight ratio and ultrasoft suspension settings allowed him to out accelerate the heavier spies on his M1 aided by 2 clicks of the honda's zeroshift transmission (spies also threw 2 clicks if you notice). all of this happened in less than 20 (count 'em 20) of those grid boxes. differences in torque output and tire wear not withstanding, physics ultimately dictates what occured. re-run it 99 more times and the end result would be the same more often than not. it's why they're called "laws of physics" and not merely "rules of physics". spies has sat thru this movie.

scampsuzi - Unregistered

November 06, 2011 6:16 PM

I am not a Stoner fan but for any rider to be more than I second faster than anybody else in practice and to pull out more than 10 seconds in the race is, by any standards, sublime. Why people still knock him is beyond me. Rossi has proven, even to me, that Stoners achievements on the Duke sets him apart, he can take a dog and turn it into a princess. His personality will improve as he gets older and wiser and silly remarks like the talent thing he aimed at Rossi will become a thing of the past, hail Casey!!

dingle dell - Unregistered

November 06, 2011 6:18 PM

Speez didn't miss a gear, make a mistake or anything else..he just got out-dragged to the line by a faster bike.

S'funny how the world turns..paint the RCV red and go back five years and it could have been Casey on the GP7.

Many orange disciples shout from the rooftops that Stoner has been the dominant rider of 800.. but in 5 seasons all the other aliens have beaten him at least twice. Rossi thrice..and I don't ever recall the M1 having an speed advantage like the GP7 or this years RCV..

Luke - Unregistered

November 06, 2011 6:43 PM

without the weather playing havoc Yes Stoner would like most races this year have won easily but the drive out of the last corner was ridiculous! Spies missed a gear and both him and stoner knew it!

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