MotoGP » Ben Spies denied Valencia victory by 0.015sec

"We just lacked a little bit of steam going to the line. That's the way it goes" - Ben Spies.

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Dave - Unregistered

November 07, 2011 9:58 AM

Looking at the lap analysis on, Ben's average top speed for the race was around 300 kph, and Casey's was 303 kph. ( just my quick estimate scanning down the numbers on the page )

On the last lap, Ben did 293 kph and Casey still did 303 kph. Also, Casey's last lap was 0.44 secs quicker than Ben.

No doubt about it, Ben stuffed up.

As the great Troy Baykiss used to say: "when they look back over their shoulder at you, you know you've got them!"

dick van mender - Unregistered

November 07, 2011 10:17 AM

Quoting top speeds shows an alarming lack of understanding of motogp for one interested enough to comment. The bikes are at top speed or about 3 or 4 secs of a near 2 minute lap, they spend at least half the lap accelerating..
Fitting end to the 800s big pile up only 12 bikes in the race and one bike with what is a massive superiority advantage... Good riddance to what was a rubbish era. The podium looked like a who's who of the uninteresting.. Best thing about yesterday is that it was the last one..


November 07, 2011 11:32 AM

Great ride from Ben yesterday.You have to feel sorry for him that he was just pipped to the post by Casey on the race to the line.I would have been more than happy to see Ben cross the line in first place but it wasnt to be.Good to see Casey go straight to Ben after he got off his bike and offer some congratulations and an appology!
Some good respect between the two of them.

Bigguy - Unregistered

November 07, 2011 1:47 PM

After a few replays it looks to me the traction control and anti wheelie beat spies
Which makes sence on a wet track it would have been working overtime with wheels spinning alot
When he gets on the gas it seems to bog badly for a split second that being enough for stoner to get the drive due to his lack of electronics

Motogp FAN - Unregistered

November 07, 2011 1:56 PM

Not quiet sure why there is such certainty that its all about Stoners Honda this year, I simply don't get it. Discounting Stoners results, Yamaha has, between Spies and Lorenzo
4 Wins, 7 2nds and 3 3rds.
Honda, between Dovi and Pedrosa have
3 wins, 8 2nds and 5 3rds.
Anyway you choose to look at it, that's not an amazing dominant bike. Pedrosa has been on that Honda for 5 years and guess what, as amazingly quick as he is, he only ever pulls out 3-4 wins a season.
Credit where credit is due. Stoner seems to have something the others don't, at least for now.
Next year should be great. Spies will be very quick, hopefully Rossi can sort his **** with the duc out. Lorenzo is Mr. consistancy,
Shame Simo won't be there, he'd have won a few. Pedrosa will still be carrying the least amount of wieght out there and racking up some Wins.
That last race was mental. giving away a 10 sec lead, rain or no rain, that was nuts. Would love to read the explanation for that in a few years after Stoner re


November 07, 2011 2:51 PM

Regarding Casey giving up his 10 second lead i think its pretty clear the weather played a part in his decision to back off the pace.It was this backing off that allowed Ben to catch him in the first place.But once he had overtaken him,Caseys racing instincts kicked in.Even though he didnt need to risk possibly crashing out of the race,he was still determined to beat Ben to the line.I am taking nothing away from Ben,he rode a determined race but do you honestly think he would have caught Casey if it had stayed dry?
That 10 second lead would probably become 20 seconds by the end of the race.But there you go,the weather was the same for everyone and i am glad it was close at the end.

A real(alistic) fan - Unregistered

November 07, 2011 4:22 PM

motfan how many wins did yamaha have last year(12??), how far behind Lorenzo was dovi and did Casey even look like he could get into the top 3 the last two years.. Then fast forward to this season and hey presto even Dani who broke both shoulders missed many races and rode most of it injured did better than last year. Dovi scored a 100 points more than last year in arguably a more competitive field(4 factory hondas) and stoner who was perennial 4th has walked the title, What about that says the honda isn't the best bike. The entire motorcycle world all the racers commentators, engineers and everyone involved agree that the honda is incredible this year and easily the best bike on the grid, only a small minority of fans think differently. In any other sport it would just be accepted only here where fans of a certain rider try to make out he was winning on a step through change that.. A real fan would give Honda and Casey both the credit they deserve..

Whatalob - Unregistered

November 07, 2011 4:29 PM

Why do people not count Casey's performances when talking about how good the honda is??
He couldn't get in the top 3 the last two years on a bike he himself said was capable of winning the championship.. Now if he couldn't get in the top 3 on such a great bike then it's simple deduction to associate the massively superior Honda with his amazing turn around in form... The assumption that Casey would have won this year anyway even on the duke is the kind of mindless drivel this site has become famous for.. well done you've not tarnished your image this day..
The yamaha has won 11 or more races a season since 2008 it won 4 in total this year.. Either Jorge and Spies totally through all those years work away in a couple of months or HOnda brought a ripper end of...

hat if?? - Unregistered

November 07, 2011 5:00 PM

What is the deal with the "What if's"?
It is racing and it is how it is!! It doesn't matter if there was rain or there wasn't. It was a great race. Casey backed off and Ben passed him. Ben was passed back. conditions do not matter. They are the same for everyone. On this day Ben gave Casey a hell of a run and that is it.

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