MotoGP » Will aluminium frame be Ducati's silver bullet?

"The positives of this bike are certainly the engine, which I like, and the fact that it handles a bit better than the previous one" – Valentino Rossi.

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November 11, 2011 2:01 AM

re: "using an L config motor for these kind of corner speeds is no good because it doesnt put enough weight on the front wheel and thats why they have front end washouts."

funny, i don't remember checa, bayliss, or any of the 9 other riders over the past 20 years who took a championship armed with an L-twin complaining of/experiencing front end washouts...? just sayin'.

willybat - Unregistered

November 11, 2011 2:34 AM

well i have my ideas so you keep yours, the ducati doesnt put enough weight on the current front tyres to keep enough heat in them, bikes have never been this pushed this close to the edge.

why the hell do you think stoner used to say it just went from under i dont know why?

im not saying it had a problem before but it does now especially since they changed the tyres.

when the V motor comes and the problem is solved you will be the one looking stupid

brandon - Unregistered

November 11, 2011 2:41 AM

no silver bullet here, and I'm afraid nicky and val should jump ship ASAP, ducati hasn't a clue as to what they are doing. clearly the ducati has some fundamental flaws that can't be fixed with a simple material swap. good on ducati for trying, but big deal. yamaha ditched it's 5 valve head on rossi's opinion. there is something with this bikes weight distribution, or some other major component flaw that seems to limit it's outright performance. val and nicky's times have never been far off each others, they hit the ducs natural limit. i know what casey did, he's amazing, no doubt. so duc builds bikes that only one guy in the world can push beyond it's limits, then they let him go to honda.


November 11, 2011 3:01 AM
Last Edited 1477 days ago


I agree with you 100%.
I said something similar there the other day and somebody started to say that Rossi could not this and could not that.
Rossi is too smart to risk too much, but I am not saying either that positive results are waiting.
Nobody can know that.



November 11, 2011 3:11 AM

re: "when the V motor comes and the problem is solved you will be the one looking stupid"

ummmn guy, it's already rotated back. remember, the V4 was designed this way from the beginning and had been using presiosi's frameless design (albeit in C/F) for 3 years now. it's why the superQ got rotated back and not closed up... ie. to bring to fruition the monocoque. presiosi's even directly said space for engine positioning is not an issue. in fact, they moved the engine in the opposite direction from where stoner won the championship and had it for his first 3 years. if they want to move it forward they can.


November 11, 2011 3:22 AM

re: "clearly the ducati has some fundamental flaws that can't be fixed with a simple material swap."

it's a good job then they aren't just attempting a material change...? but a wholesale swap of the core frame design as well. personally my vote was for steel.


November 11, 2011 5:41 AM

Fact of the matter is there is nothing wrong with the Ducati.
If all they did was race other Ducati's then the bike would be perfect.

If your going to beat the fastest bike , you will need to have an even better bike.

The laws of Physics and Engineering, at the point were the laws of physics are applied is a small place of perfection
Honda and Yamaha being very similar and close to that point, is Ducati biggest problem .
They want to be individuals and be different with there Dreams and design.
Problem is there is no room for dreamers , at the point of perfection in Physics.
They will need to be more like there enemy to beat them

Sump Rat

November 11, 2011 6:59 AM
Last Edited 1477 days ago

OOOO Yes I hope so.

I don't want Casey to break all of Mick Doohan's records next year!

Some like twelve wins in a season may have to wait until.... dare I say it... Valentino reties.

I would love to see Rossi win the title for Ducati.

Going by his results in 2011 I will not put money on Vale. but I hope the Don't Smoke Ducati team win races next season.

I would love love love to see Rossi win the title for Don't Smoke Ducati!!!!!!!

Agree with you mister Raw Dawg.

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