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Aprilia to stay in grand prix by supplying a full CRT bike for MotoGP 2012?

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Agent55

November 18, 2011 4:30 PM

Interesting and exciting news, about the only downside I see for an Aprilia team (or any CRT team really) is risking having to sell a VERY pricy engine for a mere $20k. I don't see a tremendous amount inter-paddock engine buying going on, hopefully it just stands as a warning to undercover backers :)

I'd also be curious to know how much more performance Aprilia can wring from the RSV4 engine without investing unrealistic amounts (i.e. total redesign)

RawDawg

November 18, 2011 5:14 PM
Last Edited 1047 days ago

"MSMA manufacturers have the right to purchase the engine of a motorcycle entered by a CRT immediately after a race, for a fixed price of:
"20,000 (twenty thousands Euros) including gearbox/transmission, or
"15,000 (fifteen thousands Euros) without gearbox/transmission.

"A maximum of four engine claims can be made against one CRT in any one racing season. An MSMA manufacturer may not claim more than one engine per year from the same CRT (i.e. a different claimant for every claimed engine of the same CRT)."

CRT's don't "claim" engines - only manufacturers. A team can have up to 4 engines claimed in a season but only once from the same manufacturer. Since there are only 3 manufacturers in MotoGP in reality a team can only have 3 engines claimed next year.

Zoom - Unregistered

November 18, 2011 5:16 PM

Whatever happened to the concept that the premier class was the home of the very best riders and prototype bikes running reading edge technology?
Has it really deteriorated to the level of WSB motors in second rate chassis?
Why do we continue? What is the point?

rotsa ruck - Unregistered

November 18, 2011 5:18 PM

I don't think the engine cost is going to be the issue for any of the teams. A full on WSBK Biaggi replica goes for $40K retail. The engine, if in full WSBK spec would be around the $20K claiming price. Just a guess. Price being based on production volume. Aprilia already make the engine so it's not like they're going to be supplying something they have to invest a lot of R&D into. That part is already done.

@Tetley, Aprilia used to have teams in all three classes of GP plus WSBK. After 04, just the 250 and 125 classes. After the move to Moto2, just the 125s. Aprilia went WSBK racing again since they didn't have to fund 250s.I think they supported 5 or 6 teams there. Same in 125s. Now, they just have WSBK so rejoining MotoGP as a supplier rather than a factory team, they actually save money.

. - Unregistered

November 18, 2011 5:23 PM

Unless your commenting froms Mars zoom I suggest you put the playstation control down, just for a sec and try to watch the news some more. The world is in Global Finacial meltdown, they cant afford to run stupid ultra prototypes riden already rich and then fantastically overpayed riders, sign of the times. Just hope the US suddenly showing interest in Austrailia(reg China) isnt a pre text to WW3 after Isreal kick off with Iran, the only racing we'll be doing then is away from bombs.

rotsa ruck - Unregistered

November 18, 2011 5:44 PM

I think the greatest expense that the CR Teams will have will be electronics. Those can't be claimed under the current rules so my expectation is that the engines will be kept to a minimum price for the teams while the electronics will be highly adapted. After all, there is only so much that can be done inside an engine given current technology. The electronics on the other hand have a wide open field to exploit.

Finally, this is printed over on motomatters:
" Aprilia are therefore designing a chassis with revised stiffness to cope with the different loads. Aprilia's technical director Gigi Dall'Igna told GPOne.com that contracts were yet to be signed, but that they expected to have five machines on the grid next season. "

rotsa ruck - Unregistered

November 18, 2011 5:59 PM

If in fact there are going to be 12 factory bikes on the grid next year. AND, the 4 CRTs that showed up at Valencia are confirmed, adding 5 Aprilia CRTs brings the grid to 21. Add to that the Forward bike that CEII is supposed to race, and there are 22 bikes on the grid next year. At least it'll be a full grid.

If the riders contracted aren't fast though, it'll be pretty ugly behind the slowest of the factory bikes and the fastest of the CRTs. Still, we've yet to see a rider of CE IIs ability on one of them. The potential is that they're at least as good as the slowest factory bikes but we won't know until someone who's ridden a MotoGP bike at speed is on one to compare the times. Even then, it may be a bit of a skewed picture until the rider input is incorporated into the bike.

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