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Aprilia to stay in grand prix by supplying a full CRT bike for MotoGP 2012?

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shamarone

November 19, 2011 11:31 PM

re: "Aprilia is using the loop that a manufacturer can't get directly involved in the CRT class but it doesn't restrict them from building a chassis."

so basically they're building an RSV4. oh wait...

shamarone

November 19, 2011 11:50 PM

re: Q: "Whatever happened to the concept that the premier class was the home of the very best riders and prototype bikes running reading edge technology?"

A: suzuki never taking it seriously from day one, riders bailing for WSBK, the global recession, withdraw of kawi, underperforming rossi, tohoku subduction event, capirossi retirement, death of simoncelli, etc is what happened to the concept. but before ANY of this and throughout it all there exists the greatest threat of all... ie. the devaluing mindset of the consumer.

shamarone

November 20, 2011 12:10 AM

re: "Why do we continue? What is the point?"

because we can't expect car drivers, soccer moms in mini-vans, pimply faced kids preoccupied with "face-tubing" and "you-booking", and general outsiders to the industry to "magically" pick-up where we've been deliberately slacking. the other 97% don't give a rats a$$.

shamarone

November 20, 2011 12:28 AM

re: "this is what we have... Love it"

why lost racer, you don't sound (at least not with this one comment) "lost" at all...? sounds like you're one of the few to acknowledge the only sure-fire solution to this mess.

shamarone

November 20, 2011 12:59 AM

re: "Lets face it who can afford a RSV4 or Ducati 1199 to put on the road."

err...

1. billionaires
2. "billionaire cheapskates"
3. millionaires
4. people who aren't in categories 1-3, but have decent jobs.
5. people who aren't in categories 1-4, but value motorcycling to the point where they discipline themselves to save and actually PAY for what they want (i know crazy concept), the way our parents used to do.

re: plus the speed limit on my road is 30 miles and hour."

no worries, it's WTFO on the Nordschleife.

monster

November 20, 2011 1:01 AM
Last Edited 1132 days ago

I can see Aprilia being very clever here and using Dorna's own rules against them.

Lets say that they decide to sell a limited edition RSV4 with Gear driven cams(which they already have), an 81mm bore(only 2mm bigger than they have now) and pneumatic valves (don't laugh, Kawasaki were talking about a ZX10 with air valves).....the engine is, of course available over the counter for anyone at....you guessed it 20,000 euro!!

While you're at the Aprilia shop you may as well pick up a complete MotoGP rolling chassis.

No factory will claim a motor they can buy over the counter, the above engine can make competitive horsepower especially with the extra engines and fuel allowed for a CRT bike.

If you had a team running this engine in an Aprilia frame with cutting edge electronics(which are not 'claimable') and a great rider, Aprilia could have bikes in the top 5 without actually being in MotoGP......

I can see Honda, Yamaha and Ducati not being terribly happy about this

shamarone

November 20, 2011 1:17 AM

re: "The possible upside of this for the consumer is that the manufacturers will be more likely to develop more lethal road-going machinery than we already have."

with a consumer majority who's now inclined to devalue 30 seconds after release, what's their motivation...?

rotsa ruck - Unregistered

November 20, 2011 5:41 PM

@ Monster, I agree...but also disagree. I don't so much see it as using Dorna's new rules against them but rather Aprilia exploiting the new rules for a possible advantage over the existing factory teams and the CRTs.

I say possible because we still don't know how this thing is going to run against the times the new 1000cc bikes put down. Given a bigger bore, state of the art electronics, and a talented rider it could compete quite favorably.

Problem is, who is available with that kind of talent? RdP? He's about as close as they get. Colin Edwards...except he's entered on a BMW powered bike. That, and I don't think he'll entertain getting on an Aprilia again. He's not fond of the nick name Zippo!

sbk fan - Unregistered

November 20, 2011 6:20 PM

For me the crt idea is interesting and good, the problem is putting them up against factory prototypes.

Lets face it a 1000cc road bike engine that is highly tuned, that comes in a lightwheight chassie for racing, now take away the electronics aids (2013 hopefully). that is going to be a hard bike for any racer to handle. And fun for us to watch.

All arguments over who has the best bike and thats why hes winning will be resolved after a few races, cause racers / teams would just go and buy it.

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