MotoGP » Edwards samples Forward Suter-BMW

Experienced rider Colin Edwards gets to grips with the Suter-BMW he will ride in 2012 under the NGM Forward Racing banner with a test at Jerez.

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lean two

November 25, 2011 4:43 AM

@ jose
I understand their aim/goal - evening out the playing field with CRT's - forceing more competitive racing by design, ie control (and too many rules) in the end... its the fastest bike that wins.

I'm sure CRT's will provide good racing, but give-m they're own class/race, maybe then Colin can finally get what has yet to achieve :)


November 25, 2011 7:53 AM

i know this is off topic but i dont have anywhere else to ask this...

what is the difference between a factory and satellite bike ?
and then there is that factory spec satellite bike
(like marco had)..

someone had said earlier that satellite bikes have the same specs but dont get support that right ?

if yes, then what was all that crap about the LCR guy getting bautista a factory spec bike when it already is factory spec ????

any articles to this would also be fine...thanks

SBKer - Unregistered

November 25, 2011 8:35 AM

Well, it is either having full control of development of your bike and engine for 1 million or pay a factory 5 million for smoke and mirrors and end up broke and with no bikes at the end.

I know which I'd choose.

Paddles - Unregistered

November 25, 2011 8:53 AM

@anmar, a satellite/customer bike is pretty much bought/leased/whatever at the start of the season and that team is responsible for it's development. a factory bike in a satellite team is pretty much untouched by that team and is only serviced by factory employees. there's a good laymans description of what it's all about on a site called moto matters.

bringBACKthe990s - Unregistered

November 25, 2011 10:22 AM


factory bikes are updated every race

satellite bikes arent kept up to "factory spec" every race. they start off the season at factory spec, same as the factory bikes, then get "proven" updates at every couple races.

a factory spec satellite bike is a factory bike, just the same as the factory teams. it gets the latest updates, and requires with factory technicians to help with the process.

customer bikes are bikes bought by private teams like LCR and Cardion AB. they are usually last years models or current models that get little to no updates.

JC Racing - Unregistered

November 25, 2011 12:02 PM

RdP time from yesterday: 1'41.5
2011 MotoGP Pole: Casey Stoner, 1'38.757

That's 2.743 seconds slower, and with a chassis built around Pirelli tires. Given that the 1000s aren't that faster than the 800s, I can see some satellite teams already scratching their heads and questioning their business decisions


November 25, 2011 1:30 PM

@dangleberry -" Studs - It's quite well known that MGP will move to a full CRT set up in the near future."
That may not be true - according to this weeks MCN, Ezpeleta says he is "threatening" the factories with all CRT in 2013 to make them come up with ideas and agreement of how to make factory-spec lease bikes affordable for independant teams. I don't see the claiming rule being perpetuated as there will inevitably be politics involved with claiming engines and retalliations in kind when the team deprived of their best motor and best innovations get their revenge by claiming a rival's best motor. It will become a game of spoiling a rival's chances, rather than genuinely developing an advantage by engineering.

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