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A look at lap time consistency in 500cc/MotoGP

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lies,damn lies and stats - Unregistered

December 10, 2011 3:20 PM

Is this motor racing or American Football? There is only one stat that really matters and that is who finished where. So Pedrosa was the most consistent, hmm how many times was he in a position to put the hammer down and check out ? Meaningless rubbish used as a stocking filler

GPSLAVE

December 11, 2011 3:07 AM

Absolute dribble. The riders these days are better and more professional . That's why you get consistent lap times. The same guys will be at the front with rider aids or without. If the rest can't lap fast with the aids what makes you think they will without them? In my opinion Lorenzo stoner and Pedro are a new breed of professional racer not racer/rockstar of days gone by. Most pointless opinion/article I've seen on here.

BambangBikeRider

December 11, 2011 10:59 AM

When you're in a battle, your lap times will vary a lot.

That explains why Pedrosa is the most consistent rider.

I've said it before, but the most significant changes between the 2-strokes and 4-strokes is the later has way less battles and dog fights. It sure make the lap times much more consistent.

RawDawg

December 11, 2011 4:13 PM

Consistancy over race distance is affected more so by tire wear than anything else.

During the 500cc era and earlier in the 990cc era fastest laps were set in the first half of the race and by the end of the race the riders were riding on the rim. Now the fastest laps are set toward the middle to end of the race when the fuel level is lower because the tires still hold up and don't go off like in the past.

You can make an argument that electronics help save the tire more over race distance but also tire technology has come a long way as well. I'm sure if they had better tires with better chassis in the 500cc era they could have set just as many consistant laps as they do now.

some1 - Unregistered

December 11, 2011 5:50 PM

@RawDawg,

If the tyres last longer than previous years, the laptime will get faster toward the end of the race since the fuel tank get lighter.

For me it's pretty obvious that the electronics take advantage those condition by balancing them so the 21L fuel could sufficient enough until the bike finish the race. The electronics brain will monitored those tyres traction and spin even on the straight line to calculate the amount of fuel to be burnt. That is where consistency coming from these day from a MotoGP bike.

I hope one day MotoGP had a mechanical TC from a revolutionary gearbox which is make it more predictable and all rider could focus on riding rather than guessing what their software programmer has set for their bike.

Oldyeller - Unregistered

December 11, 2011 6:16 PM

And the point of this exercise was?....

I think it would be far more interesting to compare lap times and speeds of the different generation (re: era) of bike than SPECULATE consistency of lap time vs. quality of race.

Dec. 11 in Canada and I am riding today :)

SwissJudge

December 11, 2011 6:45 PM

Almost totaly pointless stats.

If a rider is pushing the bike to the max then fair enough. But what if he is not? If so then putting in laps with very similar times is easy. Example being if the rider behind lacks the pace or is far behind.

It is about the spectacle. It is not about sitting in an office looking at performance figures on a computer. We want a race which is not another free practice. Power slides are great but we see them in free practice too.

shamarone

December 11, 2011 7:21 PM

re: "The theory is as follows: The easier a rider/driver finds a vehicle to control, the smaller the variation in back-to-back lap times."

FINALLY, a major news outlet confirms what i've contended going on 2 decades. it's more about the bike (especially when they cost "bajillions") and less about the rider. to frame this in better perpective, while i've met many a rider over the years from as high as roberts and spencer to as little known as say aoyama and scassa, i have yet to bother with a single autograph.

Paddles - Unregistered

December 11, 2011 9:52 PM

i do somewhat agree shamarone, but it's more of a bizarre love triangle between the engineering group, the bike and the rider than just having a good bike.

you need a good rider to be able to know what changes are required to go faster and then communicate that to the engineering group, then you need a good engineering group to be able to translate the rider feedback into new components or setup changes, then you've got a good bike for the good rider to give it his best on. a good rider can cover up some bike issues (casey and ducati) and a good bike can cover up some rider issues (honda and dani pedrosa) but at the end of the day the best combination of engineering/bike/rider will win the championship, why else would valentino have carted his engineering team around with him for so many years?

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