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Md Zane

December 14, 2011 4:02 PM

CR engine.
would pneumatic valves be part of the deal? would the buyer of said engine have the techno to make said engine work.What use would a desmo engine be for Honda/Yamaha.
If Honda has to use the blade engine with valve springs will Ducati pull out the old Desmo dici and tune it to the max.
I,m worried that Honda and Yamaha walk away from gp..

Bryan G - Unregistered

December 14, 2011 4:16 PM

Lowering the engine rpm by making the engines longer stroke would negate the requirement for pneumatic or desmodromic valve systems - possibly the desmodromic system would permit more extreme cam profiles that a spring system could not cope with even at the lower rpm but the main advantages are at very high revs 16000+

Md Zane

December 14, 2011 4:41 PM

Extreme cam profile shut by desmo equals more power.
Ducati small company ideally suited to small run of engineering tasks.
Ferrari type fan base of monies no object riders.
Ducati are the advantaged ones from 2014 onwards.

shamarone

December 14, 2011 4:50 PM

re: "It's not the cost of the engine that is the problem, it is the chip that controls it"

re: "Banning the electronics from being location aware would reduce costs"

no offense guys, but what planet are you living on...? thanks to 50 years of the japanese, korean, american silicon valley, NASA, computer, and automotive industries, electronics are cheap... DIRT CHEAP relative to the cost of an engine (even production kit). how do you think every smart phone you have clipped RIGHT NOW to your waist or can find left behind on a bus seat is GPS enabled and comes to have some form of gyro or accelerometer inside of it...? you can thank things like the '89 US air bag law and the defense industry for that.

shamarone

December 14, 2011 4:58 PM

re: "Lowering the engine rpm by making the engines longer stroke would negate the requirement for pneumatic or desmodromic valve systems"

or you could simply ban their use...? of course following this would be an announcement of ducati's immediate withdrawl. you will eventually see spring valved bikes in the lower tiers of ducati's line-up, but it'll be a capitulation towards ever tightening emmissions standards more than anything else.

749er - Unregistered

December 14, 2011 5:05 PM

Ducati can't use the engine from the Desmosedici.
Firstly, it is not a production engine. They stopped making them years ago.

Secondly, the bore is too big in diameter, and non compliant.

At the moment, they have no offer....unless the rules change

shamarone

December 14, 2011 5:26 PM

re: "At the moment, they have no offer"

or do they...? i encourage you to go back and take a second/closer look at the superQ engine. only this time look PAST it's published displacement and focus on the architecture now being used. it's a "grandprix" V-twin.

Md Zane

December 14, 2011 6:14 PM

The thought that Ducati would have to dumb down a road engine(desmo) to go gp racing.

A twin of the same displacement has a four will probably get beaten into the weeds,here we go the 200cc argument arrives in gp.

I wonder if eggsplatter has got a clue what's going on.

badbob

December 14, 2011 6:37 PM

This must in the end must lead to the riders making more decisions and the electronics making less.This will lead to a much higher pucker factor.....fun to watch,cheaper, more riders on the grid.........more people in the stands sounds like a good time for all!!

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