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Mick - Unregistered

December 13, 2011 9:00 PM

The last true privateer in Motogp/500 to get on the podium was as I said Mackenzie at Donny 1993, the last ture customer privateer was 1989 at the strike hit Misano for Simon Buckmaster and Michael Rudruff. So you see it doesn't happen often, the remaining 9 years of 500 it never happened.
Now with WSB only having a 22 year history, can anybody tell me the last true privateer to podium in that? I dont mean the likes of Liberty Ducati's that use 300km Ducati prepared engines or hand built 3rd party frames. An actual off the shelf and in house modified and tuned bike, as the original rules were.

Etienne Prinsloo - Unregistered

December 13, 2011 9:06 PM

The harsh reality is that globally money has run out.
All the wrangling over TV rights, subscriber channels has hurt the ordinary man's access to racing. Ball based games like soccer appeal to many more people so guess where the sponsors are going. R and D has become heinously expensive and against declining sales figures the cost/benefit ratio is tough to explain to shareholders. Has even F1 got a future in Europe? Some think not. What does the future hold- watered down Moto GP or only WSBK ? Difficult to tell but, in the end, money will decide.

Mick - Unregistered

December 13, 2011 9:23 PM

Embarrassing enough GPone have just put a report up basically what I have written, with some videos of Hartog and Middleburg as the last true privateer victories.

Fat Rabbit Racing - Unregistered

December 13, 2011 9:39 PM

Quote: Dorna boss Carmelo Ezpeleta has said MotoGP has to change to remain viable, telling Motosprint “It's clear by now that the way the bikes are built doesn't work anymore, it's not suited to the world's economic situation anymore.”
So WHY change the rules requiring the factories to design and build new bikes and new engines for what will probably end up a transitional phase of MotoGP? They could have reduced initial costs by sticking with the 800 spec engines against the new CRT bikes, and crash damage costs by stopping the use of carbon fibre bodywork etc, stopping the expensive software for traction / launch/ anti wheelie / etc control.

Mike G

December 13, 2011 9:43 PM

Part of the problem is the CONSTANT changing of the rules. I believe Suzuki would have stayed had they not had to develop an all new bike or if their current 800 would have been competitive with the 1000s. If the rules were constant and the factories were forced to sell (not lease) their used factory bikes, the grid could slowly fill up with used bikes instead of previous years bikes being obsolete.

Go back and watch a mid 80's 500cc race and look at the number of bikes that start the race. How many of those guys are on factory bikes? Very few. The rest are privateers and a lot of those bikes have some age on them. Not possible with today's constant changing of the rules and factories taking their used bikes to either be crushed or put in a museum.

shamarone

December 13, 2011 9:45 PM

re: "The harsh reality is that globally money has run out.
All the wrangling over TV rights, subscriber channels has hurt the ordinary man's access to racing. Ball based games like soccer appeal to many more people so guess where the sponsors are going. R and D has become heinously expensive and against declining sales figures the cost/benefit ratio is tough to explain to shareholders. Has even F1 got a future in Europe? Some think not. What does the future hold- watered down Moto GP or only WSBK ? Difficult to tell but, in the end, money will decide."

etienne's definitely in contention for "most sorted comment" pages 4-6. nice.

kirk66 - Unregistered

December 13, 2011 9:52 PM

Decent article. All I can say is that CRT is the future of GP and EVERY rider knows it. The CRT name will be dropped by 2014 and ALL bikes will be privateer efforts with factory production-based prototype motors. Contridiction? Not really. production based will be the cast parts and all the internals will be full out prototype materials. Since the ECU is a "control" box and the weights of the bikes will be fixed the three biggest hurdles that have to be overcome are getting Suzuki and Kawi back in the game and having Ducati manufacture a 1000cc motor that it can put in a streetbike. The first two are pretty easy. The Ducati situation is a bit tougher. They will have to either modify the new 1000 for street use and drop it in a bike or put the 990 motor into something since the run on the replica is over (I think it is anyway). Simply, Ducati has the toughest job in the CRT transition. Everyone else can come to the party with power in hand.

bjr - Unregistered

December 13, 2011 9:53 PM

If I understand correctly, the FIM have given/leased/sold the rights to run a world motorcycle championship to Dorna. Dorna needs to come up with a set of rules and a racing format that encourages people to compete.

Dorna cannot rely on three manufacturers to provide bikes for everyone to go racing, the manufactures actually want to win, and I'd doubt they provide an equal engine/bike to any team outside the factory effort. It is a competition after all.

Dorna needs to come up with a set of rules and a format that allows anyone to build up a competative bike at a reasonable price from whatever they can get their hands on.

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