MotoGP » Ducati turns the corner with new GP12

“The front-end feeling is by far the best of any Ducati I've ever ridden” – Nicky Hayden.

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s0ldier - Unregistered

February 03, 2012 12:09 PM

at least rossi can ride the ducati like stoner use to ride it, no one else could push the ducati in the front.not capirossi, hayden, melandri.. but is seems that rossi is gonna do it. just watch and see.
1. Casey Stoner AUS Repsol Honda 1m 59.607s (Lap 2/21) honda with years of develop ( HONDA )
2. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Yamaha Factory Racing 2m 0.198s (18/35)yamaha with years of develop (YAMAHA)
3. Valentino Rossi ITA Ducati Team 2m 0.824s (11/42) 3 mouth old ( DUCATI ) still have to develop it


February 03, 2012 12:18 PM

The way I read it, the bike is now 90% Japanese. With more feedback (i.e insider info from Rossi and Burgess), it won't be long before it becomes 100% Japanese.

If they went through half the effort for Stoner, they could have had another World Championship.

This shows two damning points:
1) Ducati has lost unique-ness about it. They're just a Japanese copy cat
2) Rossi cannot ride anything else other than the above

Their times are still way too slow, once Honda & Yamaha sorts out the chatter, the gap will probably be closer to 1.8 - 2 seconds.


February 03, 2012 12:30 PM

i have worked with world champions that can ride anything

and i have worked with world champions that need the bike suited specifically to them

i have seen both work. i am partial to neither. the key is to discover which type of rider you are dealing with.

stoner can ride anything. and has superb ability to adjust his style to a bikes potential.

rossi is an engineer on the bike. he needs the bike built around him. and now he has it. schumacher was the same way. its very rare to find someone like stoner. and usually, the guys like stoner are horrible and giving the engineers feedback, but he isnt. stoner is as unique a racer as ive ever encountered in any motorsport.

stoner is unbelievable at what he can do. but when both have what they need to succeed, they are both world class.

we are in for some great racing.

The Master - Unregistered

February 03, 2012 12:33 PM

"There's a big difference between believing and knowing"

Sense at last.

Oh &, aluminum twin spar is the defacto frame design, doesn't make the GP12 Japanese anymore than the BMW S1000.


February 03, 2012 12:35 PM


the bridgestones were made( or atleast they seem to work) only with the kind of chassis japanese guys have....the ducati has not performed well/consistent since they introduced a single spec tire

even after that, ducati tried each and every measure to try sorting it out last year...

if there was an option of ducati switching their chassis to suit the tires or ducati continue underperforming, id choose the former

you need to read preziosi's interview of why he brought such radical changes....if you have a problem with ducati becoming japanese like, think how much of a prob he must have had.....

aaa - Unregistered

February 03, 2012 12:53 PM

Here's one, its rare for Rossi to mention chatter, he can ride through it even when its on telemetry....

Anyone on here remember 06? There was a lot mentioned about chatter that

Roll on 2012....

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