MotoGP » Nicky Hayden needs shoulder surgery

"I'm actually happy that I tried to ride at Malaysia, because it helped me to discover that the problem with the shoulder was bigger than we thought" - Nicky Hayden.

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Biglee - Unregistered

February 06, 2012 3:59 PM

Hemmy I am just pointing out a fact, the bikes are 1000cc not 800cc so the stats are in favour of nicky and Rossi stoner fans bring out the stats from the 800s I'm bring out the stats of the bikes they are on this year.glad you replied without swearing so I do think you are intelligent cheers

db8 - Unregistered

February 06, 2012 4:52 PM

@big lee. I'm a Rossi fan, but Stoner just smoked everyone on a 1000cc last week. The best way for Rossi to compete against Stoner this year is to get real and acknowledge how good Stoner is. Its only when Ducati/Rossi acknowledge how much faster Stoner actually is, rather than make up excuses, will they even begin to think about competing with him. Your statistics are therefore pointless in reference to this years championship.

Hemmy - Unregistered

February 06, 2012 4:55 PM

biglee, i seriously dont think you get it. People bring out the stats when comparing Rossi and Stoner on a head to head basis. Stoner has better stats than Rossi. Yes of course Rossi has better stats on 1000's than Stoner simply because Stoner only had 1 year on 1000's on a satalite LCR Honda. If you want to use that data in a way to try and point out that Rossi has done better than Stoner on 1000's, be it to make you feel better, or to try and make Rossi look better, then thats fine, but it has no credibility at all.

Anyway, back on topic. Hayden sure does have more than his fair share of bad luck. I was looking forward to seeing what he could do with the 1000's and the 'new ducati' alongside Rossi, especially as he was only a few points behind Rossi in 2011.

BOSSMAN1 - Unregistered

February 06, 2012 4:55 PM

Biglee stoner was only on a 990 in 06 with a satellite team whereas rossi and hayden were on factory teams throught the 990 (rossi was on a 990 in 02 hayden in 03) so therefore it will be unfair to use stats to compare unlike in the 800 where the have all been there from the start.

On another point why did this forum start arguing over stoner and rossi on a hayden forum WTF guys and girls


February 06, 2012 5:07 PM

my point is people say stats never lie, and they do obviously ,stoner had better stats on a 800cc bike were now on 1000cc bikes ,different riding styles one will suite the 800cc the other a 1000cc.malaysia is a very long track with a lot of straights not really the best place to compare bikes really as casey is saying need to do that time on less fuel.

Bolt - Unregistered

February 06, 2012 5:10 PM

Regardless of what was done right or wrong with his care, these guys are amazing. Even Hayden. Consider the lap times put down by Dovi on a new manufacturers satellite bike. Dovi was in a bad way a few weeks ago. Clearly Hayden's condition presented safety concerns (recall on day two he pulled out saying he was having a hard time holding on and didn't want to hurt himself more or anyone else) yet he still posted a sub 2.02 lap! If he heals I think he will be fun to watch this year.

pcxmac - Unregistered

February 06, 2012 6:35 PM

perhaps Nicky can take a page out of Stoner's and Pedrosa's past history and come back even stronger than before. I would hate to see him start off on a bad foot and lead to an underwhelming season in which Ducati is very much under pressure to get a good result.

slamskie - Unregistered

February 06, 2012 6:49 PM

Lets put this in perspective shall we. Nicky only road minimal laps one day, was injured and yet still was in the top 10 Thursday reason at all to start dogging him, not a single one of you couch jockies have even the slightest reason open your mouth.....we shall what happens see this that both he and Vale are going under the knife today certainly throws everything up in the air to say the least....we should all hope for a quick recovery because the more guys that are up front the better the races are!.....just sayin'


February 06, 2012 7:11 PM

Nicky Haden will return to if, ands or buts!...he'll get first class attention to his physical issues state side, put his head down and rehab himself, and return.

This is what he does, this is what he knows...he's unlikely to race AMA like someone said...nor WSB. He'll race and retire out of the Premier Class...and being a consumate pro, he'll do so when HE knows it's time to do so...

That doesn't mean he won't continue to ride the dirt...Paris-Dakar, Baja, and a guest appearance at a Flat Track or two....

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