MotoGP » Stoner controls Sepang as chatter continues

“We'll try and improve the chatter, but if we can't we're still competitive” - Casey Stoner.

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March 02, 2012 2:06 AM
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Stoner being able to deal with chatter comes from a 'dirt track' back ground(a cheap form of motoX started by farmers in Australia who could not afford MX bikes or the entry fees)

The speeds are very high because of the massive amount of room available on large properties (I did a 'dirt track' race as a kid where they had two 160km/h 'U' turns)

The tracks don't have big jumps(so farmers can use farm bikes) but the ground can be very rough ...ploughed paddocks etc) so for Casey a bit of chatter on a road race bike would be a walk in the park!

bjr - Unregistered

March 02, 2012 4:53 AM

Actually, I think that "dirt track" may have came about after "scrambles" which supposedly was invented by motorcycle dispatch riders after WWI (or WWII ?) who missed their frantic rides across the countryside carrying important messages.

At my junior motorcross club (got my first bike on 5th birthday) we had 3 tracks. First was the "Speedway" track which was a 1/4 mile oval, second was the "Short Circuit" which was a larger oval with a Chicane in one leg (good for sorting out the sidecar boys), and the third was the "Scrambles" track which was much bigger again with jumps, stutters, uphill/downhill and whatnot.

Never been a fan of Supercross style tracks.......


March 02, 2012 5:10 AM

Stoner is just better than anyone else, period. Pedrosa is close but will fold under pressure as usual.

The tyres being given the chance to coll off then reheat, repeatedly, is much harder on the carcass than going out and doing a race simulation. If you look at the data on the laptimes at you will see that Stoner is consistently in the mid to low 2min whereas everyone else can get there but only for one off laps.

As for the Ducati and Rossi. They might get 1 or 2 podiums due to others falling, etc but I'd expect to see Rossi on a customer spec Honda or Yamaha within the next 2 years. That or in some form of rally car.


March 02, 2012 7:55 AM

Ok... obviously I haven't made the description very clear! Dirt Track(as it is in country New South Wales) was set up so ANY off road bike could compete. The tracks that I rode on were long, fast and had small jumps so older bikes with limited suspension travel could still compete.

Most of the tracks I rode on were just made up for a race meeting than went back to a paddock on the Monday, others like at Woodstock and Vitoria (between Bathurst and Orange) I believe are still there.

The big difference between these tracks and enduro and particularly MX tracks was the corner speed(we had a track at Glanmire with a U turn that could be taken at peak revs in top gear on a yz465 ..just)

If these are some of the types of circuits that Stoner won his 4 Aussie dirt track titles on then they must have helped to get where he is now

GPFan - Unregistered

March 02, 2012 8:51 AM

Did anybody realize that Casey's longest run of the final test was 3 flying laps? No more?

Yamaha riders except Ben did long runs.

Did Casey say his back is still a problem?

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