MotoGP » Ducati 'working non-stop in all areas'


“We have three different groups of designers - engine, chassis and electronics - all are working non-stop, so for sure we will continuously supply new parts in all these areas” - Filippo Preziosi.

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blindleading the blind - Unregistered

March 04, 2012 12:39 PM

wish peeps on here would stop negativly banging on about ducati/rossi having,different frames.at sepang stoner did not even want to try the new frames honda had to try,jlo tried another new yamaha frame but decided to use last years(2012) frame,the japs are doing what they have to,and are good at, with many different frame options,for a race bike that has not even had a race yet!ducati came with one frame option and it did not work great,they are just tryin to do what the japs do,only much slower and with a cack handed approach,feel free to be critical of ducatis efforts,not because they are tryin a frame,but because they aint doing it quick enough,and they aint got enough versions of it,MAY for updates fk me,they need a rocket up their jacksy,should be testing stuff next week in italy somewhere if they want it bad enough

some1 - Unregistered

March 04, 2012 2:04 PM

1. Ducati was excellent in making progress developing their bike.

2, Rossi don't want to ride the Ducati with the proven winning way. i.e. Stoner's way.

The above is the facts. No blames should be thrown to Ducati there. But I'm not so sure about Rossi. He refused openly to the media not to follow the winning way. It seem the lead rider didn't have the same direction with the company.

Despite the wreck direction on Rossi side, Hector Barbera manage strengthen himself on the satellite bike on both test. There is proven legacy from Ducati their bike is quite competitive against Honda and Yamaha. Basically, rider department need to be restructure.

johnnyr - Unregistered

March 04, 2012 2:46 PM

@ motomoto
Sorry I couldn't hear you through your Stoner fanatic syndrome. The duc was a winning machine before rossi tempered with it? how? look what the duc did to melandri, a consistent race winner who finished most races LAST position. and to hayden, a WORLD CHAMPION relegated to the mid field. rossi performed better than hayden in his first year on the duc.

yes stoner is amazing for being able to tame the beast, but stoner is a different rider to rossi. stoner is all about mid corner and getting the bike up quick out of it. rossi has ALWAYS been know to be a braking man and he has no feeling in front.

the duc is a crap bike, good on stoner for winning a championship with it, but i think people forget the top end speed of that thing in 2007 before yamaha and honda caught up

brolong22 - Unregistered

March 04, 2012 4:00 PM

@johnnyr
" people forget the top end speed of that thing in 2007 before yamaha and honda caught up"

spot on. Im puzzled lately why so many folk think the one stoner/ducati title 4 seasons back still holds any relevance to ducati's situation today.
Im not undermining it im just saying it was so long back, what does it mean now after so much has changed.
Regardless of who is riding it and who is who's fav rider, you cant polish a turd, not even rossi, hence why stoner and several others moved on.

Yusef - Unregistered

March 04, 2012 4:41 PM

I hate to say it but it appears that Rossi and Co are leading Ducati into a big deep hole.

It would seem that there is only one man capable of digging them back out, but im sure he wont be back in a hurry whilst he's enjoying great success.

Rossi is right when he says its 80% rider, 20% bike, and its quite ironic that he said those words in hindsight.

When a bike is not so good, it has a way of exposing a riders true ability. With Rossi only just beating Hayden last season by a few points, and putting down similar times to injured hayden at this last test, it only highlights how mediocre Rossi is in the grand scheme of things, in my opinion of course (before this gets deleted by crash.net for being 'anti-rossi')

Great riders get great results on good or bad bikes, and we all know that only one man appears to be capable of doing that.

Walt - Unregistered

March 04, 2012 7:24 PM

@Monster
Ducati already has had at least 4 new frames since last year, and none of them offered any major improvement.
They don't need a new frame, they need a new motor.

Jog on - Unregistered

March 04, 2012 7:36 PM

The bike is fine and Rossi will be on the top step more than once this year.
It's just a bit more mind games from the master, CS is gona crumble this yer with the pressure of trying to defend his title.

shamarone

March 04, 2012 8:19 PM

re: "Perhaps some new people with fresh ideas and different way of approaching things would be better placed to take the project forward."

actually, you just described preziosi.

re: "If the carbon frameless bike with c.f. swingarm was such a good design every other manufacturer would be going down that route he eventually gave in and went to traditional frame"

well i used to think that until i got the brief on the panigale. it was only then that i saw his genius. the problem comes in that all this flys over the head of the layperson.

shamarone

March 04, 2012 8:27 PM

re: "Aprilia have produced a GP bike for the mass market, narrow angle V4, 250 derived twin spar frame."

with the Panigale, Ducati have now produced their 2nd GP bike for the mass market (first being the D16rr), ultra oversquare, short stroke 90 degree RVT with positive crankcase scavenging, and unique frameless design further proofed out by none other than 4x "champeen" troy bayliss.

some1 - Unregistered

March 05, 2012 12:51 AM

Yet, Ducati the only other manufacture winning races beside Honda and Yamaha. Where the other manufacture? Is it so easy to make a MotoGP bike, right?

When the Ducati give all what the lead rider wants, suddenly they no longer winning races. No even win a single race per season, it's so clear the lead rider dunno a squat to win a race on a Ducati. Even Capirossi who didn't have a premier class title win some races. When a multi-WC couldn't win a single race, definitely something was totally wrong with the rider head. Not even a single win! Thats a joke and wasted the development time and money...

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