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shamarone

March 16, 2012 10:31 PM

re: "The big question is why the 2-stroke prototype being forbidden to race alongside the current 4-stroke?"

because the sobering truth is, those with the technical sophistication to make TANGIBLE products have the control (see entry for honda). in contrast, dorna, ezpelata, etc. make NOTHING...!!!

re: “May be, there is a small bike company able to blend the new electronics with a 750cc 2-stroke bike and run competitively with the current 1000cc 4-stroke.”

there is, in fact there are several, but what's the incentive to make the investment, when the product will only be devalued by the very people for whom it's been created...? do you want to be that guy...? pfft, i sure as hell don't.

RawDawg

March 16, 2012 10:45 PM

@shamarone

Exactly

There are several snowmobile manufacturers, personal water craft, and scooter makers that has direct injection technology for 2-strokes that would work with bike applications. It's said that some of the direct injection models could run off the fumes of the old 2 stroke motors.

What's funny is that I think Aprilia already makes direct injection scooters and Kawasaki has a direct injection personal watercraft and I wouldn't be surprised if the other manufactures have some direct injection 2-stroke technology in some form. But they don't want 2-strokes in MotoGP so it would never see the light.

RawDawg

March 16, 2012 10:51 PM

"unfortunately, something else they know is motorcyclists represent only 3% of the population with 2/3rds having piss-poor spending habits."

And that's why for what a sponsor pays for a hand size sticker on a F1 car they could be the title sponsor for a MotoGP team. Just about everyone drives a car - my mom drives a car. More people can relate to car racing that's why motorcycle racing will never be as big as car racing because most people can't relate and/or have no interest. As you said before motorcycle racing is a niche of motorcycling which in itself is a 3% niche.

shamarone

March 16, 2012 10:56 PM

re: "And sponsors know that motorcyclist eat snack foods, buy gas, buy cars, etc."

unfortunately, something else they know is motorcyclists represent only 3% of the population with 2/3rds having piss-poor spending habits. in the context of the modern global economy, we're basically a WORTHLESS demographic until we smarten up and show madison avenue otherwise. sponsors come, then 2 years later they headin' for the hills never to be seen again. contrast this to cheerios' (a fortune 500 brand) uninterrupted involvement in nascar for like the past 14 years...? :rolleyes: admittedly, i'm "jellin".

shamarone

March 16, 2012 11:08 PM

re: "And that's why for what a sponsor pays for a hand size sticker on a F1 car they could be the title sponsor for a MotoGP team."

again, unless we "close the loop" and give the sponsors an ROI...? none of this matters. see it never register to us. all's we ever want is "free lunch" with zero blowback and zero consequences.

shamarone

March 16, 2012 11:38 PM

re: "Eurosport should turn back the clock and re-broadcast Grand Prix seasons from 12 years ago, or more, when Rossi raced 125's and McCoy hung the back out. That was exciting racing and should remind Organisers and Manufacturers what the elements were which brought Grand Prix racing to TV prominence and attracted major sponsors."

guess what tet, i challenge you to do better. i offer to you the goal here is not "attracting" major sponsors...? the goal here is "RETAINING" major sponsors (critical difference). see for that level of "magic" to happen a burden has to be placed, not just upon the series organizers, but also upon the fans/consumers (god forbid WE should lift a finger). observe how i'm the only person addressing BOTH the expense and revenue sides of the equation.

Percentage

March 16, 2012 11:48 PM

Cart. Horse. Before.

If the sponsorship isn't there, then don't try to be F1. The reality is that Dorna/MotoGP tried to emulate Bernie Ecclestone/F1.

Dorna succeeding in making the MotoGP racing like F1, dull(ish), killing overtaking.

SBK has exciting racing, but not the fanbase of MotoGP.

Dorna is probably underestimating it's fans.
I want to watch Moto3/125, Moto2/250s as much as MotoGP.

In fact the Moto2/250 has continually provided a better show since 1949.

shamarone

March 17, 2012 12:01 AM

re: "Dorna is the problem"

Dorna is only PART of the problem. there are other issues that have to be addressed. until we acknowledge these other issues, any solution we come up with is destined to fail.

csq33r - Unregistered

March 17, 2012 2:03 AM

They should have left the prototypes at 800cc and then just added CRT 1000cc to the show! The racing would be closer, and it would've saved the factories a lot of money.

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