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RawDawg

March 17, 2012 2:56 AM

"The reality is that Dorna/MotoGP tried to emulate Bernie Ecclestone/F1. Dorna succeeding in making the MotoGP racing like F1, dull(ish), killing overtaking."

The reality is that Dorna hasn't followed F1 closely enough. If you think F1 is dullish and killed overtaking than you haven't watched F1 in years.

F1 doesn't have a problem killing off expensive technology that totally screws up the balance of power. It's widely acknowledge that the Williams car of the early 90's(!) was one of the most advanced cars of all time with active suspension and the like. F1 ride itself of such high price things long ago. Guess what? No one claimed F1 was not the pinnacle of motorsports. A few years ago traction control was done away with and control ECU's were introduced - it drastically improved the show. F1 has more technology than MotoGP could ever dream of so for MotoGP manufacturers to hide behind the "technology advancement" excuse for not to rid itself of frivolous highly expensive technology

RawDawg

March 17, 2012 2:58 AM
Last Edited 847 days ago

is a f@rse that people keep buying.

F1 is run by a dictatorship not a democracy like the MSMA that Dorna has allowed to shift rules to it's liking. Bernie makes the call and if you don't like it get the hell out. I don't always agree with the man but you can't deny his success at running that series - it's a case study of absolutely printing money.

Bernie wised up a couple of years ago after BMW, Honda, and Toyota pulled out and realised that manufacturers come and go and shifted his interest in supporting the independent teams. Carmelo has followed this lead now. Hopefully with the bending over for Suzuki and them still pulling out that he found he can't trust board of directors who answer to shareholders. It's much easier to appease individuals like Herve, Gresini, and Aspar which racing is their main business and not selling bikes.

Poddy - Unregistered

March 17, 2012 4:10 AM

Move some of the racing out of Europe to where the money and people are.
India, China, Asai, Australia Sth Africa, Brazil and Canada
These countries have not been affected by the euro meltdown and have the population and or money to support the show.
Running races in Spain or Portugal where they have high unemployment means they have no extra cash to spend so sponsors don't see any benefit, so no new money.

I know the euros on here would hate it but do you want to kill if off completely.
Follow the money path to keep it alive

samas

March 17, 2012 6:34 AM
Last Edited 847 days ago

@Rawdawg.
Where did you get the 3% from. I have always regarded you as one of the more sensible posters on this site, however in a previous post you stated I had not read your post properly if I remember correctly you stated that the Norton's G50 etc fought for a podium with a win possible if a MV or two blew up which did happen rarely, however Duke was as I said the only one on two wheels to win a WC on a Norton,I almost stuffed up again as I was going to say a single cylinder forgetting the Moto Guzzi 350cc. I do try to get my historical facts correct even when 4 people disagree, but I digress Where do you get the 3% from as when I used to go to races all kinds of people attended not just bikies. One doesn't have to be a soccer player to enjoy watching soccer I would hazard a guess is the most watched sport. We all have our own ideas on who is the best what bike is the best etc. However a fact is a fact,it may be twisted by some to suit their fancy eg a lesser rider only won a WC bec

samas

March 17, 2012 7:01 AM
Last Edited 847 days ago

cont.
because he had a massive advantage (speed tyres handling) or whatever, anyone can make a million excuses and this site is surely famous for that but those of us that are true fans and have had the pleasure and good fortune to have seen the greatest racers of all time not just the last few years. My twist on the facts would be Bob MacIntyre who twice came within a few points of winning a WC but alas has gone down in history as the first to break into the 100MPH+ at the IOM and something not everyone knows came within a whisker of setting a 100MPH lap on a 250cc at the UGP a race that will stand out in my mind forever. Post note He slaughtered the oppossition six or seven were or went on to be multi WCs

Sorry Samas - Unregistered

March 17, 2012 12:47 PM

Sorry Samas, but I'm with rawdog on this one, I'm fairly sure that the vast vast majority of motogp spectators are either current or former riders. A quick straw poll just on this site will assure you if that fairly quickly. Could anyone reading this that doesn't ride or has never ridden please just disagree.
Hence the veracity of the 3%
And!!! The majority of that 3% are on scooters and have zero interest in motogp

MM - Unregistered

March 17, 2012 2:23 PM

WSBK has been allowed to get far too close to a prototype series with too much modification so that little more than the silhouette of the road bike is unchanged. Bizarrely, they've chosen a one bike rule to 'save costs' instead of reducing modifications. Meanwhile, MotoGP moved away from pure prototypes by getting rid of 2 strokes, which Honda pushed for hardest in order to promote its road bikes, (which should be WSBK's role). No wonder lap times are close and it's hard for the uninitiated to appreciate the difference between the series. All CRT, with 2 strokes allowed, would mean engine suppliers could use MotoGP for clean 2 stroke development and we could see some interesting prototypes much faster than WSBKs.

RawDawg

March 17, 2012 3:28 PM

@Samas

Actually, 3% is shamarone's number. I was replying to his post but some how my post is before his post - maybe he deleted it and reposted?

Anyway, I know it's hard to believe for some of us bikers but we are not that big of a percentage of the population (at least outside of Asia). And only a fraction of that actually cares about MotoGP.

And I'm sure that all types are at races but I'm pretty sure all the girlfriends, wives, kids, and friends were dragged there by someone who is a biker and/or bike racing fan.

MM - Unregistered

March 17, 2012 3:42 PM

While in the UK and USA, bike riders are a very small minority, in Southern Europe the use of two-wheelers is much more widespread. Attendance at races there represents a much wider cross-section of the population.

Percentage

March 18, 2012 10:29 AM

"The reality is that Dorna hasn't followed F1 closely enough. If you think F1 is dullish and killed overtaking than you haven't watched F1 in years." @Rawdawg

Huh? F1 had to introduce an artifice like DRS to get overtaking. Not that far from WWF (the wrestling one).

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