MotoGP » BMW boss indicates MotoGP plans


"Once we win in Superbike we will move onto bigger and better things" - BMW Motorrad president Hendrik von Kuenheim.

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RawDawg

March 16, 2012 3:25 PM

"the term "independent team" is a misonomer (ie. a fantasy). the only way they will ever have "independence" is when they start producing their own engines"

No, they don't have to produce their own engine as long as they can buy one a la CRT.

F1 independent team (which would be all of them expect Ferrari and Mercedes) don't make their own engines. F1 pretty much survived a whole decade with 1 engine manufacture (Ford in the late 60s and early 70s). Using producation based WSBK type engines is really easy for independent MotoGP teams and all it takes is for a manufacturere like Aprilia or BMW to be a works engine supplier (like Cosworth in F1) to really cement things for independents. I would think it's a more viable economic model for manufactures to supply engines and let teams like Tech 3, Gresini, and Aspar handle the running of the team.

j - Unregistered

March 16, 2012 3:26 PM

Shamarone,
Can't say I agree 100% with you. Independent teams can run production engines, tune them and do whatever they want and race them in a prototype chassis that they build themselves without any factory involvement. Yamaha sells yamaha R1 engines and you and me can go an buy it. So yes there can be viable independent teams but that is not suggesting they will be a top front running team without the help of a factory and its resources and tuning engineers etc

pcxmac - Unregistered

March 16, 2012 4:43 PM

@SP3 a Pirelli Slick is not a BridgeStone slick. Also prototype bikes are not WSBK/Consumer bikes, they are built for GP racing and with a particular make of tire in mind.

Ben1

March 16, 2012 6:18 PM

Aren't you a little bit arrogant BMW? You couldn't win a race in SBK for 3 years, maybe you should do something for that aim before you are talking about "bigger and better" things.
And do they want to win a race or the championship? If one race - I don't know what a single win prove. If one championship - they have a long way!

shamarone

March 16, 2012 9:20 PM

re: "No, they don't have to produce their own engine as long as they can buy one a la CRT."

unless of course that engine is a yamaha, suzuki, honda, or a ducati. all's it'll take is 1 or 2 MSMA meetings to end up with no kawi and no BMW either, effectively turning motoCRT into the "aprilia challenge". i don't expect noale to go anywhere since they're hard up for cash.

MR.TRUTH - Unregistered

March 16, 2012 9:35 PM

LOL
Good luck with wining the SBK Hendrik, you will need to beat the Italians first.
You entered SBK same time as Aprilia Made In Italy Aprilia was competive from day 1, won races came back the year after, and won the Championship!
What has GERMan engineering BMW done in SBK, NOTHING, not 1 race won
Maybe you can enter one of those BMW Cups, that way you are assured of winning the Championship...lol
I suppose we all have dreams......

Chloe - Unregistered

March 16, 2012 9:51 PM

Hendrik von Kuenheim best bet is to hire the world champion, and fastest man on the planet Casey Stoner. If Casey can win on the Ducati, he can win on the BMW AND THATS A FACT!!

shamarone

March 16, 2012 10:07 PM

re: "Yamaha sells yamaha R1 engines and you and me can go an buy it."

no, yamaha sells complete MOTORCYCLES that we can go out and buy. at which point, we then have the burden of liquidating each and every rolling chassis purchased. notice that's not what's currently happening...!? at the moment, the few participating engines in CRT are being supplied "crate style" under the auspices of their respective manufacturers. hell aprilia's supplying both engines AND frames...!?!? not saying it's a bad thing, just illustrating how it's a "dependent condition".

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