MotoGP » Valentino Rossi still far from the 'front'


“I can't load the front enough to enter fast, so I don't carry enough speed through the corner, and that's why we're far from the front”- Valentino Rossi.

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FRED1 - Unregistered

March 23, 2012 11:10 PM

Said it before and I'll say it again. Rossi right now is where Sete Gibernau was before Sete retired. Too old. Yes. Too old to ride at the top of the top of the grid.

Not saying Sete was ever better than rossi at their prime, just saying he's too old and snake bit. Fell down way too much last yr.

And Stoner will be beat and can be beat. But it'll be Lorenzo who does it and I'm no big Lorenzo fan, but like him a lot better than when he did childish things like the silly bit he used to do after winning a race (Lorenzo Land thing).

It sure won't be Marquez that does it. Over rated rider to say the least.

First it was the carbon fiber causing the problem. Now what? Its the aluminum frame isn't the right alloy? It's something ON the bike that is the problem.

FRED1 - Unregistered

March 23, 2012 11:18 PM

I'm intrigued to know which MotoGP riders the Stoner fans supported before Stoner came to MotoGP.
I wonder if any will take this opportunity to name their previous hero / favourite? *************************************************

Sure. Rossi was one til I realized what he is/was. Then there's John Surtees a rider who could ride bikes and actually win F1 races for Ferrari, not just ride around driving a Ferrari for whatever reason.

The there's Stirling Moss who never won the F1 championship but imho was a better driver than those he drove against. We should all know just why that was.

Then there's Jim Clark on the pinnicale (sp?).

Compare what came out of the mouths of Moss, Clark or Surtees with what comes out of the mouth of Rossi. There's a big difference. Three were Men. One is just childish or child like.

motomoto - Unregistered

March 23, 2012 11:21 PM

nailed it Rawdog !!

and I've been saying it since "contract" that this is not going to work. Good to see a few of you accepting reality. and less "hope that they find something" or "wait till they get the new parts" There is no "something" and no bolt-on "part", save a turbo, that will help the duc circulate the track any faster. The Duc will always be a Duc. Stop asking the team for changes and learn how to ride it proper or get off of the thing. Someone is too old to re-invent his riding style. And I'm a fan. Bring back the CF frame, it's just as fast and way cooler.
I just knew that he should have stayed with team blue.
motomoto prediction : NH will finish higher than VR by the end of the season.

rogerio.alves@gmail.com - Unregistered

March 23, 2012 11:22 PM

Come on, I can't believe that is there anyone that still thinks that the Rossi of 2011 or 2012 is as good as the one of 5 or 6 years ago... That "previous" Rossi would probably have a decent chance at the title even at the Ducati, but now he is too old, too set on his ways, and a bit battered and bruised to risk that extra bit as he did before (and as Stoner and Lorenzo still can)...

The fact that he was that good for so long is one the reasons he is so great. Stoner still has to show that he can be as good as he is today in 4 or 7 years time (and maybe he will...)

Rossi was good for a long time, but that time already ended... that doesn't that away any of his titles...

bionica - Unregistered

March 23, 2012 11:32 PM

You can respect Rossi for riding and trying even after his prime time...

You can respect Stoner if he leaves still in his peak years (and most think he will)...

but you should respect both (and a lot of them others) for giving us a balls out entertainment!

shamarone

March 23, 2012 11:33 PM

re: "No matter how far you rotate it, you simply can't move it's CG close enough to the front wheel to be ideal."

#1, for the love o' god it's been rotated since it's debut in '02/'03.

#2, if moving it closer to the front wheel were truly their goal (and not added cooling), then they would've left themselves that option by leaving the opening in the radiator. new frame time and look for the split to return at the expense of surface area. never having worked in aluminum before, if corse thought they were going to "strike gold" at only their 1st/2nd attempt...? they're kidding themselves.

Legend - Unregistered

March 23, 2012 11:36 PM

The funny thing is, as a 1999+ Rossi fan, I agree he has passed his best. Do I think he will win the championship this year? Hell no! Do I think he will win a race this year? Probably not. Do his fans think any less of him? Absolutely not!

Are his 9 World Champampionships worthless due to crap competition, an unfair advantage etc? HELL NO (only Noobs say that!)

His time might be passed, but the defamatory posts make me laugh, cos in a few years time Casey, Jorge and Dani will be facing exactly the same posts from "noob" fans who will say the old competition (who WILL be beaten by the "new guy") is "passed it" and "overrated".

Unless you are Rawdawg of course, who will still be bleating about Rossi from his retirement home in 2021.

Dave - Unregistered

March 23, 2012 11:40 PM

Bionica, I agree with your last post.
Why do so many of you feel a need to trash riders to support your personal favourite?
Casey can be a pain but he's fast, has won championships, and will likely win another this year.
Jorge is likely the only one who can defeat Casey this year.
Valentino hasn't lost it, regardless of what some wish, he has always approached pre-season testing in a methodical manner similar to this year.
Is Hayden quicker? Perhaps, but he is a champion and he has more experience at Ducati.
Is the Ducati a dog? Perhaps, but the times would have been quite tight, barring Casey's last minute bonzi lap.
Relax a bit, everyone, and let the testing unfold. In time all will be revealed, and I suspect we will see Honda on top, Yamaha marginally off the mark, and Ducati in third, but closer in times than last year.

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