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"A single bike per rider, limiting the number of mechanics per rider, setting a price cap on bikes..."

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hello moto - Unregistered

March 27, 2012 11:54 PM

Since Kato died at Suzuka, the GPC have created many awful "solutions" to their problems. No surprise that they would continue the trend no matter who controls the rules.

Bottom line, the GPC is not fit to run the sport. They don't have the creativity to engineer solutions to their problems. They work 24/7/365 to avoid failure, which is the caliber of leadership possessed by kindergartners.

They have combined the 21L rule with supersuperbikes. The worst aspects of both formulas. MotoGP needs more prototypes and MotoGP needs to replace the 21L rule. Get it done, or just shut it down so we can all move on with our lives. One bike? Firing personnel? I'm embarrassed I ever started watching this stupid sport.

cam - Unregistered

March 28, 2012 2:00 AM

@ shamarone

meditate on the following pearl of wisdom i provided in an earlier thread... "you can have engines without racing, but you can't have racing without engines". (you may quote me)

I actually said this first a few years ago.

Percentage

March 28, 2012 2:02 AM
Last Edited 975 days ago

OK, enough of the manufacturer bashing.

I'm not going to look up the facts, but I'm pretty sure that Honda has supported MotoGP for the last 30 years. So has Yamaha. Suzuki and Kawasaki have also, with some breaks, as did Honda in the '70s.

That is DECADES of long, hard support.

Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Derbi, Aprilia, Gilera, MV Agusta, MZ, Bultaco, Ducati

Withoug them, we'd have nothing

Ausrossi

March 28, 2012 3:31 AM
Last Edited 975 days ago

Percentage, I don't think anyone is particularly denegrating manufacturers, but this is also business, if Honda for example has cart blanche as far as how much to spend then it becomes cheque book racing. If the bikes are similar on many levels then it becomes about the quality of the riders but also the racing will be closer because there is not a performance gulf between bikes. Currently you could get away with a grid of possibly 6 bikes, the rest are not in it. I watched an old 500cc Donnington race and it showed Lawson on a Cagiva at least mixing it up, that would not occur these days. Also I note how Stoner said he would walk away if there were no prototypes which I could easily construe as I have finally arrived at a dominant position, if the run with a level playing field I may have to actually bash fairings, something an aging rider and his spainish nemesis have few problems with.

shamarone

March 28, 2012 4:52 AM

re: "@shamarone
are you even aware of the crt's flooding the grid??"

if you mean all the aprilia crate engines and frames flooding the grid, that without which the marque would again go tits up, then the answer is YES.

let's race - Unregistered

March 28, 2012 4:58 AM

make it simple dorna....
let manufacture continue development in term of chasis,engine,swing arm,electronics and etc but ban the traction control like BSB(UK)let the rider use their skill to control the bike ...it sure fun to watch

Sonata - Unregistered

March 28, 2012 5:24 AM
Last Edited 975 days ago

@Ausrossi
Is it mandatory to bash stoner on every oppertunity possible just like many stoner fanboys out there doing the same?This article is about the future technical changes to be made to cut costs.Motor Racing is not football,tennis or Rughby,its & technical sport with lots of engineering & budget in it.

EDIT by CRASH.NET - elements of personal attack removed

shamarone

March 28, 2012 5:28 AM

re: "because if the factories go this is what will replace them"

i think what you mean to say is... "if the factories go, this is what will TRY and replace them".

as we've seen, "here today" doesn't mean "here tommorrow". you probably don't realize this (you may not even accept it), but MGP and WSB actually COMPETE against one another. that's right, they compete for a dwindling niche fanbase that isn't big enough to sustain both series. everyday the fans are choosing one series over the other and the time is rapidly approaching where the MANUFACTURERS are also going to have to choose.

remember, the factories stock and trade is making and selling motorcycles...! not making and selling "personalities"...? personalities aren't "durable", they are fleeting. they retire, they have bad seasons, and worst of all in this sport... they can get KILLED. :( meanwhile, the "tangible" bikes we park in our garages will outlive us all. ADVANTAGE WSBK.

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