MotoGP » Ezpeleta: 15 million euros for a MotoGP team


"Honda now spends 40 million euros in its official team every year" - Carmelo Ezpeleta, Dorna.

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Cheshirecat1

March 30, 2012 9:45 PM

Dare I say... without getting shot down.... simpler bikes? Prototypes, yes but singles or twins, maximum say 500cc. Big superbikes are selling fewer and fewer globally and all volume manufacturers are looking at smaller simpler bikes. They could still develope new technology all day long, If the machines were the absolute ultimate whatever configuration why do they need to be 1000cc 4's? The 125 singles provided superb racing so there's an example.
Just a thought...

Fadil - Unregistered

March 30, 2012 10:33 PM

its not just about the racing, wether its good or not has to be affordable at the end of the day, no more tobacco sponsors, thats another reason why lots of privateer teams left, and the 250 bike was becoming so expensive and the smaller teams had no chance of competing with a small budget , i dont understand why the factories are limited to 2 satelite bikes, what happens if the likes of someone like interween decide to come back which wud be good for the sake of the sport, ow wait you cant only 2 sat bikes

kimey - Unregistered

March 30, 2012 10:38 PM

Why do they have to keep faffing around with everything. We had to go to 4 strokes and guess what they are more expensive. Lets reset the clock, back to 500cc two strokes which are cheaper, remove all the restrictions (maybe keep noise level and that will do) inc tyre manufacturers. Then get each manufacturer to sell not lease their bikes. That way you build in sustainability. That way a good team can buy an ex works bike, put on a good young rider and get noticed. Its not rocket science its looking back at when it all worked well and we had full grids, then learn from mistakes.

Wolfy35

March 30, 2012 11:54 PM

Maybe if the rules were not so restrictive on the type of machine and instead were simplified to something along the lines of max 4 cylinders & 1000cc, no more than x litres of fuel & a budget cap of X more teams would consider getting involved but at the moment its deteriorated into little more than a p***ing contest to see who can spend enough to get the best out of a machine that the rules make almost identical in the engine department.

Bear in mind that Norton submitted a request to use a CRT spec version of their NRV588 bike but had it refused on the ground it was not an inline 4 cylinder machine.

shamarone

March 31, 2012 1:25 AM

re: "Dorna CEO Carmelo Ezpeleta wants to see each MotoGP team limited to a budget of 15 million euros per season - less than a half the amount Ezpeleta claims reigning world champion's Honda is presently spending."

ezzy ezzy... i understand the motivation, but where the "F" are you pulling these cost limits from...? your a$$...? when's the last time you drove a lorry...? machined a crankcase...? ordered a 1/2 dozen wheel sets from marchesini...? or even so much as turned a wrench...?

as someone whose manufactured NOTHING (as far as i know?), what makes you think you can DICTATE a 1 mil and 15 mil cap to a factory whose been engaged in the business of manufacturing for MORE THAN 50 YEARS...?!?! ok, why not 750k for a bike...? and 20 mil for a season...? when did you work for price-waterhouse...? you're just a race organizer ferrcrissakes. :rolleyes: account for these numbers.

SHAKEN - Unregistered

March 31, 2012 1:56 AM

15m Euro & Honda spending 40m Euro. Wow, wow, wow..... That's a hell of a lot of bread. No wonder there is no competition, not to mention no character

common sense - Unregistered

March 31, 2012 3:54 AM

the simplest answer is typically the right one. Keep the rules the same as they were. Radical changes require radical expenses and ensure the big guns will stay ontop by spending whatever is needed to arrive at the optimum solution soonest. Capping anything will reduce its value.

Percentage

March 31, 2012 6:28 AM

600cc 5 gears 4 cyl. , Unlimited except Aerodynamic Frontal Cross-sectional Area (man size bikes that will limit top speed).

800 to 1200cc 4 cyl. 3 cyl. 2 cyl. variants, Control ECU, Various Rev and Piston diameter limits (so that ave piston speed constrained), Cam Ramp Angle limit, Aerodynamic Frontal Cross-sectional Area (man size bikes that will limit top speed).

The prototypes can do their development.
The controls have enough variation for everyone.

Aussie - Unregistered

March 31, 2012 6:33 AM

@Shamrone
I agree with everything you said but you left out the most important thing,whoever runs this show when are they going to get a young go getter that can breath a bit of life into GP, this bloke should be retired,the problem is everytime he opens his mouth it's about a new change to GP how can anybody keep up with the changes.just imagine the costs involved every time these changes are made.I think this bloke has been given a brief to destroy GP racing and he is doing a bloody good job at it.

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