MotoGP » RESULTS: What you think of MotoGP


Your responses to the Crash.net survey about the current and future status of MotoGP.

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CRT - Unregistered

April 04, 2012 8:53 PM

@ Wrong, eliminating or limiting traction control isn't bad will make racers more responsible to use skill rather than trusting technology from placing them on their heads.
Posted by Marc

Have you ever watched a 500CC race? Granted the power bands were insane however, I want you to add 70HP and a boat load of TQ to a 500CC 2 stroke and that's what you'll get. If you thought the highsides were violent then, wait and see what happens.

The power to the ground would be virtually uncontrollable.

TC has never won or lost a race in the modern era. Banning it will enlarge the gap from the winners, not reduce it.

zzz - Unregistered

April 04, 2012 9:02 PM

So the fans are basically in denial. They want the highest tech bikes with the lowest tech reality TV racing. This gives no guidance to the GPC.

Dorna resolve to kill the technology. The MSMA resolve to kill the racing. Both of them swear they are doing what the fans want.

Fans need to get their heads out of their asses if they want things to change. If you want good racing and high technology, the sanctioning methods and performance controls will have to be radically altered. If you can't stomach weird rules, sacrifice technology or close racing, and then let it be. By harboring this paradox we merely empower the GPC factions who ruin MotoGP.

SHAKEN - Unregistered

April 04, 2012 9:11 PM

There is nothing whatsoever for the fans to think about (MotoGP). There is no character, competition, and worst- it suffers from the sickness of greed and horrendously complex computerized machines few can afford. In that sense, its no longer a 'sport' but a cut-throat commercial jungle.

shamarone

April 04, 2012 10:12 PM

re: "Dorna sometimes dont seem to realise that if they lose the fans, they lose the battle to keep the sport alive!"

what dorna doesn't realise is when fans look for "freelunch", it means they've already lost the battle. they've lost capi, they've lost simo, and for all intents, they've lost rossi. driving off the manufacturers will simply be the "final nail in a coffin".

bliz - Unregistered

April 04, 2012 10:21 PM

Can someone please explain to me why multiple tyre manufacturers are good for MotoGP? I can understand how it's good for tyre manufacturers, but I'm not clear on how it is for MotoGP. Please, I'd really love to know how this improves MotoGP as a whole and why it's so important to the series. Thank you.

shamarone

April 04, 2012 10:25 PM

re: "You forget that what people want to see is racing not technological missiles circulating a track."

and YOU didn't read the article. the people have spoken...

"a majority (70%) believe that MotoGP is special because of its technology"

re: "The only reason racing exists is for the show."

incorrect, the reason racing exists is to sell product and ensure the industry has a future. motorcycles aren't going to build, sell, and buy themselves. skynet doesn't exist.

shamarone

April 04, 2012 10:37 PM

re: "Can someone please explain to me why multiple tyre manufacturers are good for MotoGP? I can understand how it's good for tyre manufacturers

sure. what's good for tyre manufacturers IS good for MotoGP. if first starts with the epiphany that the motorcycle industry is a NICHE business and not a BIG business (this ain't car-side). everything here is connected and interrelated. what one does (or doesn't do) ultimately impacts the other. this is not an "if", but a "when".

shamarone

April 04, 2012 10:54 PM

re: "I agree with most of the results of the survey but I'm surprised that many people wanted to go to multiple tire companies. While in theory that would be nice the issue is that how would you control who gets what tire and how to control the abilities of one tire brand over another?"

(S1 get's finger cramp from pressing the ez-button)

i've already given the "hybrid" solution to this problem. tyres aren't mixed within a class, but each class gets supported by a single manufacturer. b'stone has MGP so nothing changes, dunlop already has M2 so nothing changes, michelin should be extended an olive branch to return by offering them to support M3. if CRT is ever going to match pace with a prototype, they should be on different tyres. i believe even gresini's now echo'd this...! ie. enter pirelli stage left. everybody's banners are on the fences and in the TV graphics, thus everybody's got a chip in the game. that's a WIN, WIN, WIN, WIN. yeah, that's a lot of wins.

zzz - Unregistered

April 04, 2012 11:16 PM

@ bliz

Yes, I can explain. When the sport has a tire war, the manufacturers want to run the softest tires they can get away with. These tires tend to wear out more quickly. Riders have to focus on tire management, which leads to more interesting racing.

Furthermore, the tire manufacturers can build tires to get the best out of a manufacturer's chassis so some of the performance development costs are absorbed by the tire manufacturers. With a control tire, all development expense falls on the manufacturers, and they waste money trying to build a chassis that works for irrelevant prototype control tires.

bliz - Unregistered

April 05, 2012 12:14 AM

@zzz

Manufacturers don't want to run the softest rubber that wears out, they want to run tires that can last the whole race and offer the best grip available. If one tire manufacturer does this better than another then you have a disadvantage completely outside the control of the factory and rider.

Tire manufacturers have always had to build for differing chassis. Furthermore, different riders prefer different spring stiffness, etc. Also, you'll recall that Honda factory ran Michelin while Gresini ran Bridgestone. The point is that factories have always had to make adjustments to fit whatever tires they ran. At the end of the day, it's easiest just to give everyone the same stuff, let's factories work it out and go race.

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