MotoGP » Hayden: I guess sixth is pretty good


"Considering my injuries and limited testing over the winter, I guess sixth is pretty good" - Nicky Hayden.

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Brian C. - Unregistered

April 14, 2012 1:00 AM

@realist

Puig has said a million times that Spain wanted a #1 rider. So did Repsol. Pedrobot has always been #1 since he joined the team. It's "nationality" for Repsol since they have the $$$ backing the team. As far as barely beating Rossi, don't forget about the "spearing" incident and that Hayden flat out OUT RODE Valentino with the title on the line (and Edwards). I know Nicky is always supported. Hardest working rider in GP IMHO but sponsors always get their way or they pull out. If Hayden was ever #1 he'd never be a race test mule.

Realist

April 14, 2012 5:57 PM

@ Brian C.

Sure, Hayden put up a fight, but that doesn't change the fact that it was a very narrow defeat. He got lucky, but it's a championship title to his name nonetheless (which is more than I can say for most GP riders). I don't know if I'd go as far to suggest that he's any harder of a worker than anybody else, but rather, one of the most/more likable riders in GP. He just has some nice qualities about him.

some1 - Unregistered

April 14, 2012 7:55 PM

Hayden title year will be remembered for a long time as he shattered the hype and myth of Rossi is unbeatable when Biaggi, Gibernau and Melandri failed to find the answer on how to beat Rossi.

It's not all rider knows how to take the opportunity and work it out and become a MotoGP World Champion. Had to remember that all those 990 years, Rossi was having advantages over all rider on the grid with the best bike, the best team and the best tyres.

Hayden not only had to be better than Rossi but also his team mate Pedrosa is breathing under his neck all the time. Truly an amazing year for Hayden.

BrianC

April 15, 2012 1:27 AM
Last Edited 956 days ago

@Realist
"it was a very narrow defeat. He got lucky"

I disagree. Can you name any MotoGP title holder that won the title by sheer luck? I can't name any. It takes hard work and dedication and Nicky had to be the test mule for Rossi, Barros, Biaggi, Pedrosa, Stoner and now Rossi again. And his title was won as the #2 rider on a Spanish sponsored team.

Hayden's title was earned, not through luck. What happened to Rossi wasn't bad luck, either. He was trying too hard and binned the bike. Hayden was already catching up to Bayliss and Capirex when he saw Rossi binned it. Otherwise, he might have won that race too.

Realist

April 16, 2012 5:55 PM
Last Edited 954 days ago

@ BrianC

If you listen to those on Crash, ALL of VR's titles were by sheer luck or favoritism. :)

Back to our discussion though. I mentioned narrow defeat and luck because he beat Rossi by a mere 5 points (prior and following years displayed a significant point disparity between 1st and 2nd place riders). Had Rossi not crashed, he would have won that year, but that's racing. Hayden's consistency that year paid off and put him in a good place to benefit from the odds. The point tally was close that year between the top 5 though.

some1 - Unregistered

April 16, 2012 11:08 PM

If Rossi hadn't crashed?

How about if Hayden hadn't been t-boned by Pedrosa at Portugal? Will it do it for you to forfeit Rossi's Valencia crash? What position Rossi had before he crash? I guess, Rossi still lose to Hayden in championship.

Realist

April 17, 2012 1:10 AM

@ some1

If Pedrosa and Hayden had not have collided, that could have had an effect as well. I'm not arguing that. My point was that it was a very, very close championship chase among the top 5 riders, and Hayden's victory was narrow relative to the seasons before and after. It is what it is!

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