MotoGP » Qatar MotoGP rider times: 800cc v 1000cc

A comparison in race times for MotoGP riders that finished both the 2011 800cc Qatar night race and last Sunday's 1000cc Losail season opener...

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April 11, 2012 11:18 AM
Last Edited 1482 days ago

Going by these stats, Cal is the only one to significantly improve on a 1000cc.

I'll bet money he will finish the championship 4th above Dovi and Spies

RaceFan - Unregistered

April 11, 2012 11:20 AM

This is an interesting comparison from a rider perspective, but the machines are too new and undeveloped for this to mean much just yet.

We should see a fairer bike to bike comparison when there's at least a year's development of the various chassis/ suspension and handling characteristics, engine electronics and of course, the tyres, which have an effect on all of the aformentioned.

UKBikered - Unregistered

April 11, 2012 11:36 AM

This is fascinating, and helps take the hype out of the results.

Everything does seem to point to Ducati having a awful bike, and Rossi is doing what he can to make it quicker!

Its going to be an interesting year


April 11, 2012 11:55 AM

is this the real reason why the factories did not sell/lease out their old 800's to the satellite or private teams?

seems to me that just about everyone would have been faster on their old bike. corner speed is so important yet these teams cant pass up the opportunity at the extra grunt of a 1000cc. interesting.

but then again, the old 800's would have to be adapted to these new bridgestones. there's no telling how much the new "control" tyre had to do with these slower times whether it be the lack of bike development or simply their pirelli/f1 like artificial wear.

i wonder if we will ever see a mfg make a smaller capacity bike in the hopes of making up the difference in the corners. then again, someone did comment that many records are still held by the old 990s.


April 11, 2012 11:59 AM
Last Edited 360 days ago

@UK Bike Red - Hayden was 6.6 seconds slower than last year. Rossi was 22.8 (and admitted the Barbera "incident" only cost him 5/6 seconds). I therefore don't see your point.

I do agree the Ducati isn't a great bike, but it isn't 100% the bikes fault for Rossis very below average showing.

Rossi is giving everything??? He wanted to give up after a couple of laps. There's a problem with his mentality.

Do people really think the blinder their faith makes them a better fan? Rossi needs some tough love. a slap in the face and a boot up the arse would be a good start.

Matt - Unregistered

April 11, 2012 12:04 PM

the main thing you can take from this is the value of a years experience on prototype machines.

All the expereienced lads were a little slower on the new machines, yet Cal was quicker - this must be mainly down to a whole years worth of experience of setting up/riding a prototype and this Bridgestones.

You need bum in seat time to learn, no matter how good you are.


April 11, 2012 12:32 PM

@ Matt

Yes, I'm not sure you can rely too much on Cal's time as being an indicator of his superior adaptation to the 1000 (tho he obviously likes it). He was a rookie this time last year and riding injured at a new track. So his time this year was bound to be faster whatever he was riding. The fact that his time is such an anomaly compared to the others kind of proves the rule: the new 1000s are so far slower.

pp916 - Unregistered

April 11, 2012 12:50 PM

Taken at face value this illustrated the vast improvement Cal has made from his debut last season and also that he has perhaps adapted to the 1000 as quickly, possibly better, than a great many of his rivals.
What would be interesting would be for this exercise to be repeated throughout the season to see if a pattern develops.

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