MotoGP » Qatar MotoGP rider times: 800cc v 1000cc

A comparison in race times for MotoGP riders that finished both the 2011 800cc Qatar night race and last Sunday's 1000cc Losail season opener...

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dozyfans - Unregistered

April 11, 2012 12:52 PM

all new bikes so even the satellite team has the same spec as the factory. In a few races they will fall a bit behind due to not being included in any developments.
Still it show lowcruch can do well on equal bike.

tim - Unregistered

April 11, 2012 1:01 PM

The slower times for JL, DP etc just shows how much sand was blown across the track by the higher winds this year, reducing the grip levels. It has no bearing on the 1000 vs 800 debate. The only person there with a - sign is cal, which just shows how much he has learned in the last year and how on form he is right now with that bike.

Vilas Terror - Unregistered

April 11, 2012 1:11 PM

All riders say that this year the track was diferente from last years.. most of the riders that we are compared times have been with problems on race.. diferente race situacions.. The tyres are diferente and since 2007 the rules have been changing a lot.. tyres specificarions as well.. For sure the balance of an 800cc can make the bikes more confidente on corner speed but, has we can imagine, we are talcking about Motogp the Top bikes... On equal situations the 1000cc engines on this caind of track with so long straigh and an average speed so high are fastest

soops - Unregistered

April 11, 2012 1:41 PM

So, let me get this straight... The times on the brand new, immature, and, in some cases, still developing 1000cc bikes are slower on brand new, different composition tires that, incidentally, warm up faster, but degrade over race distance than mature, fully-developed 800cc bikes that rode on Bridgestones that heat up slowly, but remain the same over race distance where you can be running the same times at the end of the race as you were mid-race. Shocking! That's why I gave no credence to those articles that talked about riders like Hayden being "slower" than last year. EVERYONE was slower than last year.


April 11, 2012 2:45 PM

A bit too early to be making major comparisons i think.The 1000cc era is only 1 race old after all.But lets not forget that these bikes have different handling characteristics from the 800s,also the tyres are different,was the track temperature the same this year to last?
Also was there as much dust on the track as last year?
All these thing will have an effect.
Speaking of dust,i have to agree with Shamarone.Would it be too much to ask for the track to be swept by machines similar to road sweepers before each race?
After all,we are talking about a country that is not short of money!
How much would a few dust sweepers cost?


April 11, 2012 3:11 PM

I did say "Going by these stats" - So I am acknowledging I'm taking a very limited range of statistics on board.

However, I've said said since the start of testing that I thought Cal was going to impress a lot this year. Dovi's new on his Yamaha and Ben has not impressed me on his to date (although I do like the guy and acknowledge Losail was a freakishly bad race for him and not going to be reflective of his season).

Marc - Unregistered

April 11, 2012 3:12 PM

New bikes, venue, and less corner speeed due to additional power of bike. However, this comparison between 800's and 1000's will edge to 1000's getting better times as the bikes develop and venues/tracks can use the additional power. No worries the 1k's will be supreme.

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