MotoGP » Rossi: We have a base to start from


"By the end of the three-day test in March, we had found a decent set-up for the GP12, so we have a base to start from" - Valentino Rossi.

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Drag-stir - Unregistered

April 25, 2012 5:43 PM

According to the Rossi fans, Stoner only won the title in 2007 because the Ducati was the fastest bike in a straight line. Well now the Ducati is again the fastest bike in a straight line ,so no more excuses please.

some1 - Unregistered

April 25, 2012 6:10 PM
Last Edited 856 days ago

Chris Leeson is far better rider than Rossi. Without MotoGP experience, Chris can beat the 9 time WC anytime. No front end problem at all for his Panigale to get those 2 podiums and a pole in that round. A good result result though.
EDIT by CRASH.NET:
Stay on topic.

pcxmac - Unregistered

April 25, 2012 6:15 PM

wrong again Swiss Judge, Casey had the trellis frame in 2008 and Rossi spanked him on the new and improved Yamaha. Ducati are the third best manufacturer in MotoGP and have been for a very long time, they got lucky in 2007, when they had a bit of edge on power delivery.

Realist

April 25, 2012 7:22 PM
Last Edited 856 days ago

@ some1

Seriously dude! You really need to think long and hard about what you post. You chisel away at what "little" credibility you have when you post nonsense like that. How you manage to compare the superbike to the GP is beyond me.

@ Nick636

You're another one who tends to regurgitate misinformation. You state that he needs to start "regularly" beating Hayden and Barbera. He "regularly" beat them last season (Nicky beat him in only a few races last season, and most were because Rossi crashed out, and Barbera only beat him ONCE), and after only one race, many of you seem to have forgotten that simple FACT. One race doesn't dictate an entire season. It is one thing to have an opinion, but it is an entirely different thing to ignore fact in favor of furthering an obviously biased statement.

Realist

April 25, 2012 7:22 PM

@ Ausrossi

You can't argue with Nick's post? Did you not watch last season at all?


@ Nick636

It would serve you to watch the videos (from multiple angles) of the 2011 Jerez crash again. People helped Casey just as much as they helped Rossi. Casey's problem was the bike, not the lack of attention.

Moto Guru - Unregistered

April 25, 2012 7:31 PM

The fact of the mater is, ducati cannot afford to have a top rider talk about their highest achievement bike from factoryas if it's built by fisher price.

So, valentino is instructed to give hope to the fans even if the bike will not do better than 8th or 9th.
Nothing has changed (and nothing will):

"At Qatar the Ducati top speed showed winning in the final 200 meters of the straight, But ducati is losing in the first 200 meters and that also means losing out on acceleration at many corners." Burgess said.
Like any divorce, no one wants to be the one to say, "it's over". The sooner this happens the better both will be.

Moto Guru - Unregistered

April 25, 2012 7:36 PM

To make a very good motorcycle you need to maximize both the corner entry and exit and for the short straights between the corners. The main straight only turns up once on a lap. The rest of the track is where you can make a gap or pass riders.

Realist

April 25, 2012 7:42 PM

@ Moto Guru

I can agree with much of this statement:

"To make a very good motorcycle you need to maximize both the corner entry and exit and for the short straights between the corners. The main straight only turns up once on a lap. The rest of the track is where you can make a gap or pass riders."


Traits such as these are what make the 848/1X98 really nice bikes to ride on the track. Why Ducati has such a hard time making a good GP bike is beyond me (well, we all speculate "Why").

SmilingAssassin

April 25, 2012 7:45 PM

@ in the know

Regarding the "weight on the front".
It's not the actual weight of the fuel/bike that I'm referring to.
In bike setup terms,it relates to how the geometry and suspension it set ,so that when a rider sits on the bike,with its nose set low,and the rear high,his body weight puts more pressure on the front tyre due to the angle of the bike.
This usually helps load the front tyre and improve corner entry,having it set more horizontal/flat like Rossi has it,should theoretically help mid corner and on corner exit.It doesnt seem to work on a Ducati though....
Elias set his bikes up with minimal front bias,and it didnt pitch forwards much when he braked,so he never had any heat in the tyre,and he was slow.
An inability to adapt their riding style is the problem,plus the fact the Ducati isnt as good as the other bikes.

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