MotoGP » Abraham: I need to sort myself out and get some points

'The main problem we're facing right now, though, is the mental state of our rider – which after three race failures isn't too good' - Marco Grana

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werz - Unregistered

May 07, 2012 8:14 PM

Simply put, he's not fast enough. At least when Barbera tailgates Lorenzo he can post up some respectable times.

Abraham will stay in the class because, well, daddy is loaded. That said, his career stats will be anaemic: TWO


May 07, 2012 9:14 PM

@ pcxmac

I'm referring to the end-of-season tally. I should have been more specific. Nonetheless, my statement still stands. Cal is receiving praise THIS SEASON, and rightfully so. His performances warrant it. If Karel ended up on a better bike and performed just as well, I'm sure he'd receive praise as well.


May 07, 2012 9:44 PM
Last Edited 1298 days ago

@ pcxmac

I'll repeat what I stated. I am not concerned with, nor do I care about, his individual races. I'm referring to where he ended up when the season(s) concluded......a'la, ONE top 10 finish.

He's riding the same destitute GP12 that the rest are riding (plus or minus a few parts). He just can't stay on the bike (while the others manage to).

ruff - Unregistered

May 07, 2012 9:46 PM

If promotion to MotoGP was based on accomplishments, there is no way this guy would be in this class. Sadly, that's not how this sport works, but good on Abraham for getting his seat, regardless as to how he got it.

Prior to him entering the class, would he really have been in anyone's top 10 to make the jump? Be honest with yourselves. Likely not, and that's because he hasn't proved ANYTHING.

That said, he has held his own in his GP career, so props to him for that.

rossiput - Unregistered

May 08, 2012 4:11 AM

To those who sympathize on karel,
this event is fierce competition! your sympathy means nothing to upper management! Results speak themselves

have these ever crossed in your mind?
How many champions in motogp get kicked out for poor result (pogiali, aoyama)? poor adaptation (melandri)?
Do you think people like paul bird an a**hole? yes but that a**hole is the BOSS! People are f**in delusional and unrealistic! Do you think ducati management will accept Melandri's reason when they can see at Casey?


Properly mastered the moto2 is the PROPER way to motogp! do you think this GP classes is for above average riders? NOOOO this classes is for the best of the best

eat this fact carefully and THINK before throwing your "mr nice guy" sympathy BS!


May 08, 2012 6:56 AM

Rossiput, have you been on the sauce?
Trying to read what looks like an out of control rant, where are you referring to when you infer that Casey and others have stated about Karel? I know Casey stated he was dubious about his move but also said this sometimes helps people raise their game, as he did. Since then and the argument at Mugello (which most backed Karel, including Suppo) he has stated he has been impressed by his attitude and ability.
As for people getting kicked out of Motogp like Pogiali, who never made it to Motogp and had multiple chances following his 250 title but just lost it, some riders do. Aoyama got 2 years and never showed like he was adapting. He didn't get booted out of Motogp, he left he was offered the CRT with Gresini, looking at his results in WSB he needs his confidence back which he isnt getting there.
I suppose you think a rider should keep his ride regardless of his recent results, based on his past, your name kind of infers that, do you think Hayden sh


May 08, 2012 7:05 AM

CONT. Do you think Hayden should be in a full factory team?. I am sure you are one of these people think that if Rossi was on a Honda he would be winning, well think if Karel had one!
He will never be a world champion but he is doing an OK job and did give Ducati a ray of hope last year that the bike wasn't that bad. Most of all name someone who you think should have his ride, because there is hardly a rider on the planet who will get in touch with the top THREE.


May 08, 2012 8:28 AM
Last Edited 1298 days ago

@ pcxmac

A major difference between Cal and Karel last year was that Crutchlow figured out how to stop crashing, and had only 1 off during the last 6 events (and only then when he and Aoyama were caught out by a sudden rain shower). Karel meanwhile kept on crashing even until the very last race, and then in pre-season testing and now again that the season has started. Irrespective of level of kit, he has to learn to keep it upright, otherwise his pace will never be a factor.

Neither can you blame the quality of the equipment for the crashes since otherwise all the CRT guys would be dumping it even more. It's a question of Karel learning his own limits and those of the bike and riding within them until he can build up some consistency. The kid is simply trying too hard right now and somebody needs to give him some good advice and calm him down a bit before he gets hurt. The good thing is that he is perhaps starting to realise this himself from his own comments.

Miso - Unregistered

May 08, 2012 12:50 PM

Abraham (in his first season) managed to beat Valentino Rossi a few times, Qualifying or Race, 5 top10 finishes. Not to mention his team had 0 (zero) experience with MotoGP bike.
How may times did Byrne, Ellison, Espargaro, de Puniet, Barbera, Bautista, Dovizioso, Spies, Simoncelli beat Rossi in their first season? How many top 10 finishes for them?
Is he really that slow?

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