MotoGP » Shane Byrne to make MotoGP return?

"Maybe we will let Shakey have a run out on the bike and rest James for a meeting" - Paul Bird.

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chrysalis - Unregistered

May 08, 2012 1:05 AM


As i said previously, forums are forums. Like bringback2strokes has identified Paul Bird makes hard hitting decisions in an often politically correct paddock full of smiling and b/shit.

In the past Ducati Italy have trusted his team to run full factory spec machinery, as have Honda UK, and then Kawasaki Motors, and yes....that turned out not so good but they won the contract to run it. The guy is living his dreams and lets not forget, creating some for others...Just ask the guy who won the opening two British Superstock Races this season who may have been ride less.

With respect to you Raw Dawg you live on the other side of the water and have no dealings with people directly within the British paddocks. It's a bit like me assuming i know what Rob Muzzy or more recently a Yoshi boss was doing or what should or should not be done. It's Paul Bird's cash on the line regardless of how much or little he has.

Oulton Park Reporting has also identified another twist...that perhaps

chrysalis - Unregistered

May 08, 2012 1:06 AM

cont/Oulton Park Reporting has also identified another twist...that perhaps Aprilia want some additional feedback, perfectly logical given Byrne tried his damndest with the Cube.
Bird has a history of hard decisions but he also has a past of helping in ways possible. John McGuinness was probably the first to go on to bigger things & benefit from support, then James Toseland, who's career had taken a knock the season before joining Bird, a year later and he is in WSBK....even in 2001 a 13/14 yr old Casey Stoner was allowed to use Bird's pit garage and facility at BSB rounds to help him settle in. No doubt it got some PR but still, it does not have to be done.
James Ellison is a worthy racer, but not a great racer, Shane Byrne has perhaps never performed to the hype but is rated in more ways than one. If Ellison returns after Le Mans perhaps the tune will be different.
One thing is for sure that there is a degree of more open mindedness from the team people slate compared with some on th

chrysalis - Unregistered

May 08, 2012 1:07 AM

cont/One thing is for sure that there is a degree of more open mindedness from the team people slate compared with some on the forum, did anyone notice the coincidence of the top fairing not sporting the 'dutch looking'decals that many were moaning about on here last month. Now it looks British. Perhaps a they took a hint.

Paddy - Unregistered

May 08, 2012 1:35 AM

i'd let them both ride. put shakey on ellisons spare bike. 2 sets of data are better than 1 + the guys will both be on the same track. no dent to ellisons confidence and shakey might be able to give some good points about the direction the bike should be going in... or is that too sensible

rotsa ruck - Unregistered

May 08, 2012 1:51 AM

I know little of Paul Bird or PBM other than the team fielding Kawasaki SBKs. For some reason, I got the impression that Paul Bird himself was willing to let Tom Sykes go so that Vermuelin and Lascorz would have ride. Kawasaki is who kept Sykes on and for the first time, in a very long time there's green bike at the pointy end in WSBK. That says it all for me.

As for the rest of it, if it's true about the rules, then there isn't any other way for Byrne to get to ride the bike besides as a replacement rider. He could test but not with MotoGP tires. There is the issue since the bike was developed with Pirelli tires, it's not gonna chatter unless it's on MotoGP spec rubber. The only scenario where Byrne gets to ride on a full MotoGP spec CRT entry is as a replacement. Too bad for's not like it's his fault the bike keeps breaking.


May 08, 2012 4:29 AM


Where do you get off stating that I'm pretending like I know Bird or that I'm in the paddock or in Britian? I don't care if I was sitting on the damn moon reading this statement he still comes off like a tw@t. End of.

You can go on romantizing about Bird like he's Robin Hood giving to the poor all you want. He's not the only team owner in motorsports spending his own dime - it's been going on since the beginning of motorsports. There are other team owners world wide coughing up their own coin as well.

I don't buy the story about Aprilia wanting Shakey and Bird giving in to that. Even when Bird was running factory teams he called the shots on his own riders. He PAYS Aprilia for bikes and they have as much right requesting who rides the bike as me or you. There should be data and video evidence of the chatter - it doesn't take another rider to confirm that.


May 08, 2012 7:44 AM

Didn't Bird pay for Sykes out of his own pocket last year as Kawasaki wanted Vermulean and had promised Lascorz a ride?
I am not a big fan of Bird but if you haven't noticed the bike is pretty much sponsor free, Dorna are subsidising him. He has aspirations to move this on to a 2 man team next year, for that he will need to bring in backing, if the bike has problems then they need to sort them otherwise there will be no financial suport.
Buckmaster was quick to slag Ellison off on Twitter repeating comments that Bird had made in the paddock, but that sums him up. I am sure they are running on a shoestring this year so he needs as much help as he can, as the saying goes, 2 heads are better than 1.
Realistically James didn't get his ride on merit, probably due to his Motogp experience but that was spent entirely on Dunlops. He did ok when he was on the WCM because nobody expected anything but failed to deliver to Checa's standard on the Tech3 (yes the frame was old.
At the end of the d

James Ellison and Carlos Checa were not on the same Machinery and I am sure Tech3 will confirm that for you.
James was testing the new Chassis in a Race situation. Checa was racing on the old chassis. .
James Elison and Leon Camier had different Bikes and I am sure That can also be confirmed by Ohlins or perhaps
Leons Manager who also happened to be Airwaves Yamaha Team owner.

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