MotoGP » Ducati: Full upgrade package for Laguna Seca

"We will not have the total package at Mugello. This is unfortunate, because Valentino likes the race a lot and it is our home track" - Filippo Preziosi.

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CRT - Unregistered

May 09, 2012 8:14 PM

@ OilSpud69

There is zero proof that Audi has any involvement in the Ducati GP project, you are basing it on sole speculation.

Audi bought the company becuase of its product line, not becuase of the racing. There are no reports (that I have seen) that Audi has issued demands upon the race team, nor made any budget changes to the race team (increase or decrease).

CRT - Unregistered

May 09, 2012 8:18 PM

@ You guys also forgot that when Rossi stepped on the M1 he had unlimited testing time to refine the bike and give voluminous information to engineering and together they developed a winning bike.
Posted by J

No one has forgotten this. What people tend to forget is the bike was developed when Rossi threw his leg over it for the first time. The only real input Rossi and JB had was which engine configuration they wanted to run. Thier choice was the same conclusion the test riders came to. It has been documented that JB's only complaint was they did not get to give enough feedback into 2004, which those changes were made for 2005.

If you recall Honda did not release Rossi from his contract thus not allowing him to test until the beginning of 2004.

OilSpud69 - Unregistered

May 09, 2012 9:21 PM


BMW took over the Mini brand and retained the true essence of the Mini, as much as they totally revamped it inside out and made it bigger.
VW have done the same too with Lamborghini and that goes forthe rest of their marquee acqusitions, it is logical that they'll approach Ducati the same way. They are efficient at running things without shouting from the roof tops as to how much they really are in control of all their acquisitions that seem to run autonomously.
It is German slight of hand, they are too smart to invest in a black hole that is Ducati, and be dumb enough to be hands off.


May 09, 2012 9:22 PM

"We can suggest what our ideas are,
but the final decision,
day by day,
practice by practice,
is made by Jeremy speaking with Valentino ..."

Huhummmmmn, when did this start?

If it was from day one,
Vale was already on the podium!

Now, after all this time,
making such a statement
and trowing the ball away
(when the new owner is pushing),
that is very weak!


May 09, 2012 9:31 PM
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We all speculate quite a bit, but I'm going to have to agree with OilSpud69 on this one. From a simple business perspective, it makes logical sense that Audi will dive head-first into their new acquisition (if for no other reason than to educate themselves about what is going on with said acquisition). Whether this translates into more funding for their GP effort remains to be seen, and any assertions that Ducati's GP effort will see any substantial increases in funding are purely speculative.

CRT - Unregistered

May 09, 2012 9:53 PM

What does a mini and a Lamborghini have to do with the racing department? Nothing. You are speaking of changing the dynamics of a consumer product. We can debate back and forth on racing being a consumer product, but changing a product line and restructuring a race department are two completely different things.

Speculate all you want, there is still no proof the Audi has done anything with corse. I'm not saying they will or won't, but there involvement to date is obsolete. Ducati maintained they pulled the factory effort for reasons not related to the signing of Rossi, I haven't seen anyone who buys it.

OilSpud69 - Unregistered

May 09, 2012 10:09 PM


It is only an analogy. I can't add any more if you can't follow my drift. If you trully believe in what you say, then logic will have to wait.

Ambramovich has no coaching badge, knows nothing about football, but being the owner affords him a very big whip, he can draw blood and fire the manager if he pleases.

I digress into yet another analogy that has nothing to do with Ducati or bikes.

donny - Unregistered

May 09, 2012 11:17 PM

Ducati have gone from a steel trellis frame.Which won the championship in 2007, to a carbon fibre frame that won a lot of races up until the end of 2010, and various versions since. Now they have the traditional twin spar all alli frame,and are building the engine, to fit in the TRADITIONAL frame,now you tell me where and what you would class as a traditional frame, i say it is japanese, you tell me otherwise, and i am talking about prototypes,and after the release of the new bikes at laguna seca,the only difference between the proto bikes will be the paint schemes,plus the engine internals,and that is my opinion wheather it is silly or not. cheers

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