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More details emerge regarding Suzuki's 1000cc MotoGP bike.

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Vilas - Unregistered

May 23, 2012 2:00 PM

AvTech37 its a good point.. But I tinck Suzuki will not anunced one project without beeing shure that Prototips bikes will continued for more years.. I love 100% prototips bikes and thats way Motogp is Motogp, but if we had to change rules like was him the past, that the solution was 2 stroke bikes i will not be 100% bored because i will have exciting races and more bikes on the grid, 2 strokes bikes will never show up again sadly, now marketing is all about 4 strokes, and , if Aprilia can have one 100% CRT bike and **** then because its one cheap prototipe for me=), for sure Honda yamaha suzuki maybe iven more Manufacters will developd 100% CRT bikes to, and at the end what we will have is one great big competicion with all Manufacters there i belieave on this

AvTech37 - Unregistered

May 23, 2012 2:22 PM

@Vilas
I don't disagree with you. I have a passion for pure racing prototypes also but I think we have to be realistic. Also, despite what Suzuki are saying at the moment, who says that their 'new' engine is not destined for CRT type racing. However, I would like to be proved wrong!!

kneedragon1962

May 23, 2012 2:22 PM
Last Edited 940 days ago

Suzuki may or may not come back. They may or may not be consistently successful. The key thing, is that upper management (not in the race dept, in the company) have a serious "Not invented here" complex. They're a very traditional, very Japanese company. They have to save face first and last. They can't copy anybody else or hire riders who claim credit off the company, or any other dumb thing that flies in the face of old school Japanese corporate culture.

I'd love to see them come back, with a straight 4 and whop everyone, but I have grave doubts that's ever going to happen.

They need to fund the race department appropriately, and consistently, and they need to get either a western manager, or a Japanese manager who thinks like a westerner, (pragmatic) in charge of the race dept, and then back off and let him do his job. While the very traditional and conservative board of directors decides to micro-manage the race dept, they will struggle.

This is not a Japanese problem. It's simp

AYB08

May 23, 2012 2:36 PM

2014 is long.. bt glad they will be back.. Cycle World says it an I4 but not a screamer(like the M1).. And the pics there suggests its a pure prototype... We just need more colours in motogp.. Manufacturers by the way..

kneedragon1962

May 23, 2012 2:38 PM
Last Edited 940 days ago

continued

... not a Japanese problem, it's simply hubris and arrogance.

BSA went though something like this in the '60s. The board of directors decided to run the race effort. They threw a much bigger budget at it and decided to build their bike out of titanium. All of it... It was a disaster of biblical proportions. If they'd simply increased the race dept's budget and stepped back and let them work, they would have been world beaters for a decade. Instead, they decided to take over things they had no experience or expertise in, and huge amounts of money and respect went down the toilet.

It was a train wreck. It was a textbook example of why accountants and HR people should stay out of engineering, why boards should stay out of the face of the people at the coal-face. The fact that you have authority, doesn't mean you have expertise.

When Suzuki announced that they would be pulling out of MotoGP at the end of the 2011 season, they were keen to emphasize that the withdrawal was only temporary saying they were planning a return to MotoGP in 2014. Though many paddock regulars were sceptical about such a suggestion, Suzuki is sticking to its guns it seems. In an interview with Italian website GPOne, Suzuki Racings technical director Shinichi Sahara reaffirmed that they were still working towards a 2014 return to MotoGP, based on the motorcycle the factory had been developing before the decision was made to pull out.

We already had our 1000cc bike ready when Suzuki s management decided to pull out of MotoGP, Sahara told GPOne. The bike has already been tested at Ryuyo, and we were very satisfied with the results achieved. We still believe we will return in 2014 with a competitive bike, Sahara said. The Japanese engineer was also asked if Suzuki had switched to an in-line four, and though he said he could not give techn

read - Unregistered

May 23, 2012 2:58 PM

details, he did reveal that Suzuki had chose to stay faithful to our engine layout, a hint that the bike will remain a V4.

Sahara also revealed the extent to which Suzuki is backing the Crescent Fixi Suzuki effort in World Superbike. The factory's support was mainly limited to financially backing the team, Sahara told GPOne, and its technical involvement limited. Yoshimura responsible for preparing the engines for Paul Denning's Crescent team had very close ties with Suzuki, and Yoshimuras development was being guided by input from Suzukis racing department. The chassis and setup, though, were entirely in the hands of the Crescent team, Sahara said. Crescent is perfectly capable of doing that on their own he added.

wadcutter - Unregistered

May 23, 2012 3:16 PM

@ 07to11

That's OK then was only giving him some testing duty's for 2013!!
Suzuki won't happen anyway, I think they'll do an Aprilia and develop the bike then release as new road superbike and spank wsb.
Just a thought kids calm down...

amakusa

May 23, 2012 3:30 PM

In my opinion the Japanese manufacturers have a policy of making money first, THEN go racing. Just like Honda n Yamaha they sell alot of bikes and hence they spend it on racing, RND at the same time. Thats why I think they are self sufficient, even without title sponsor they will still be there. Its something other struggling manufacturers need to learn, perhaps. On the downside, its also partly why they can also be high handed in terms of management. But then again they have a board of directors/investors they need to answer to.

I suspect Suzuki and Kawasaki are taking time off along those lines, make money first and then go racing.

Il Mostro - Unregistered

May 23, 2012 4:21 PM

Interesting to hear the rumblings from Suzuki now that VW(Audi) have bought Ducati. Suzuki's own dealings with the Germans didn't end well and may have in fact been the whole reason they hiked up their skirt and left World Championship racing entirely for 2012. Regardless it would be great to have them back in MotoGP and in WSBK with one caveat, that they keep Denning as far away from it as possible! He mishandled the team so poorly the last time that it cost several riders their careers! Maybe he was not solely to blame, I don't care. Suzuki left MotoGP as the laughing stock of the factory teams and it would be great if that were not the case this time around. Now if we could just get Kawasaki back on board!

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