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“The forecasts say it could rain tomorrow, and of course we know that we can do well in the wet” – Valentino Rossi.

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suzukisteve

June 03, 2012 12:52 AM

I don't think there is a huge problem with the Ducati, the Ducati just doesn't suit the 2 riders on it !!!! What they are trying to do now is change the whole bike, to suit the 2 riders. I feel a bit for Nicky, because Rossi came on board and straight away started to have problems. Since then the whole bike has been re-engineered to try and suit Rossi, and Nicky by the looks of things has just been dragged along with the whole show. And the times are still not good, but maybe a little improvement, Ducati still have a long way before they can win a race in the dry, a wet race is off course different Rossi proved that last time out. I think with the next big changes comming to the Ducati in the next couple of tests eg revised engine and electronics, this will make or break Rossi and his team ! because to be honest Rossi has announced to the world another 2 years, and I don't think he would want to stay as a mid pack runner, he wants to be up front challenging for the win.

Catch Up - Unregistered

June 03, 2012 1:09 AM

@ ausrossi....no he didnt win another championship, but he did win races,in fact more than anyone else and remember he was up against some great riders on a bike that was proven to be way harder to ride than alot of people would be led to believe.

If Rossi walked away from Ducati at the end of the season, you couldnt really say he was a failure, but it would definetly go down as money not well spent and also as one of the greatest of all time that could not ride the Ducati.
It would also prove the fact that Rossi is not very good at developing a motorcycle, contrary to popular belief.

I personally think he should stay and prove to Ducati that he was worth the money.

Objective - Unregistered

June 03, 2012 1:15 AM

Just from observation I get the feeling they have made the Ducati too rigid now. It is understeering and difficult to turn in, especially in a tight sequence of corners. The aluminium swingarm won't fix the problem. All the Ducati riders seemed to have the same issue with turn-in.

The WiseMan - Unregistered

June 03, 2012 1:24 AM

To anyone that's been watching, the Ducati has improve, Rossi is closer to Stoner Pole sitter by under a second, and not only that the bike is not trhrowing the riders off like it use to. Let's wait till Sunday and then will talk. Like they said there aren't any 1 second part, but the product could very well end up being more then the sum of it's parts. I honestly think that the bike is coming around

Alex - Unregistered

June 03, 2012 1:34 AM

I would question a previous writer's comment that Rossi is not capable of developing a bike. The Yamaha was a pig before Rossi and Burgess got to it. He won the first race on it from memory and was it the first championship also.

People are saying that Rossi is trying to develop the bike to suit him. This in my mind is not such a bad thing. Perhaps Stoner did the same thing with the Ducati. Capirossi and others had won on the Ducati before but since Stoner took over no one else ever did any good.

And Hayden is just the just Ducati's Edwards. He may have won a championship but that was a fluke. He is not in the league of the other top riders or even a greatly time wearied Rossi.

Catch Up - Unregistered

June 03, 2012 1:34 AM

@ wiseman ..True on one side of the coin the bike is not throwing riders off like it used to, but on the other side it is not up there with the front runners like it used to be. So what do you personally think would happen if Rossi tried to make up that difference in times and push it even harder ??

Catch Up - Unregistered

June 03, 2012 1:49 AM

@ Alex I am a bit confused as to why you should call the Yamaha a pig of a bike.
From what I had noticed it appeared to me that is was at least one of the front runners during that era and I would say that it was Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki and then Ducati coz as we all know now it was only Stoner that made the difference on that bike.
I believe at Valencia testing Rossi jumped on to what I would call a pig of a bike, but definetly not the Yamaha.

suzukisteve

June 03, 2012 2:10 AM

Quote:People are saying that Rossi is trying to develop the bike to suit him.

Off course he is, how else is he going to turn it into a race winning bike, the bike was built around Casey Stoner ( Nicky Hayden said that in a old interview ) When Casey was riding it, it was a race winner and then Rossi jumped on and didn't like the thing. So now the bike is going in the direction Rossi's team wants to suit him and his riding style. You have to remember the factory puts out a bike, with there own data and the teams data from the previous year to hopefully be a race and championship winner. Each rider is different and he'll either get on the bike and like it and be quick after some small changes, or he'll hate it and fight with the factory to get some major changes. That is what has happened to Rossi, that is why the bike has and is going through major re-development.

2fast - Unregistered

June 03, 2012 3:43 AM

If this,if that,then... Rossi ducati pairing will never work.Vale wasted enough time on ducati allready and damaged his stats.2 podiums on ducati for almost 2 seasons and under specific circumstances,few years ago for Vale that would be unthinkable.If honda or yamaha want him,he should run and not look back.Bigest mistake for him was leaving Yamaha.He should of pulled his finger out and dealt with Lorenzo.In any case I think he is still at least top 3 rider.

GP fan - Unregistered

June 03, 2012 4:49 AM

@ Alex I am a bit confused as to why you should call the Yamaha a pig of a bike.
From what I had noticed it appeared to me that is was at least one of the front runners during that era

Hmm, they year is 2004, Biagi still very unhappy with the M1, said his 500 GP bike was faster, everyone thought Rossi's chance of defending his title was nil. The Yamaha won 2 races in 2002, none in 2003 and you think it was a quick bike? Burgess and co totally redesigned the bike for 2004 and Rossi took the first race of the season and ultimately the title, huge change of fortune for Yamaha... Do your homework please

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