MotoGP » MotoGP podium trio give views on Marquez clash


Catalunya MotoGP top three Jorge Lorenzo, Dani Pedrosa and Andrea Dovizioso give their views on the Marc Marquez/Pol Espargaro Moto2 clash.

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Southerner

June 04, 2012 4:02 PM

Unpleasant incident at best. Pol had fed himself into winning contention brilliantly. However,this was not a Qatar/Luthi move. Dovi got it right. It was a 50/50 on the day and the batsman gets the benefit of the doubt.
Glad Pol escaped unharmed. For a moment there I thought he was in deep sh*t.

Nerger - Unregistered

June 04, 2012 4:02 PM

Marquez and Simoncelli's bad habit of cutting across the front of other riders' front tire is what injured Pedrosa and took him out for several races last year when Simoncelli did exactly the same thing.

Dorna is waiting for a disaster to happen.

I like Marquez and I think he's an excellent rider and has a big future in this sport but some of his racing moves are questionable even though I don't consider them intentional....yet.

snad - Unregistered

June 04, 2012 4:24 PM

the most ridicules thing is overturned penalty
Dorna is encouraging unsafe riding this way or maybe Honda and Repsol are in total control of Motogp.
This isn't good for motogp.

Shark 22

June 04, 2012 4:28 PM

Ignorance took most of the fatality accidents on street. When it happens on racetrack, someone will suffer points, collarbones or maybe same fatality!

MM knew there was a 4 way battle, or he was simply ignoring his team notice board?
He could have been think about the consequences of 4 riders dogfight, or he was simply having brain damage?

The initial punishment according to 'infringement to article 1.21.2', which states: "Riders must ride in a responsible manner which does not cause danger to other competitors or participants." was actually correct!
The questionable part was the 60 seconds post-race penalty which must have been too harsh, although in different view also might be good for MM to learn the lesson.

Ignorance is irresponsible and fatal!

PE was lucky to survive bones or even life.
MM was lucky to survive points.

You guys think, which one is more important?

das boot

June 04, 2012 5:04 PM

Probably the most common pass in moto racing is when a rider in front makes a mistake, goes wide, slows down enough for the rider behind to go thru. Unfortunately for Pol, Marquez's mistake was pretty minor, and Marquez was able to get back on the gas and line it up for the next corner. This resulted in a "racing incident". It would have been nice of Marquez to leave room as the gentleman Pedrosa does, and perhaps he will learn to do so in the future. But for now, no penalty should be enforced.

Nick - Unregistered

June 04, 2012 5:07 PM

@snad, the most ridiculous thing was giving him a penalty in the first place. He took the racing line, Pol knew he was going to do it yet still tried a stupid overtake. What is surpising is that MM stayed on the bike. How you can say it was MM's fault beggars belief. Look at the comments from all other Motogp riders, there isn't one who says it was MM's fault (with the possible exception of Alex, Pols brother)

snad - Unregistered

June 04, 2012 5:36 PM

@ Nick
for a moment let aside whose fault it was or what MM deserved. My point is when a decision has been made you should stick with it, otherwise it does not send a good message (like everyone thinking he getting preferential treatment). If they did not gave him penalty only warning everything would have been fine.

rotsa ruck - Unregistered

June 04, 2012 5:51 PM

I watched this incident a number of time. Slow motion, frame by frame etc. I think that Dovi is spot on in his assessment. MM as everyone has stated just saved a crash. Somehow he stayed on, and it was a pretty awesome save. He stayed on the throttle and simply went about his way. Not really his fault. Pol came from a long way back to be where he was at the time of contact. MM, in all consideration likely wouldn't have thought to find Pol where he was.

Pol, being in a left hand turn was hanging off the left side of the bike and couldn't see where MM actually was. He likely thought that MM was still well off the racing line after his save. At the moment of contact, Pol is still behind MM. By behind, I mean his front wheel is still behind MM's front wheel. He's shown his wheel but that's it.

In frame by frame the moment his front wheel hits MM's bike is evident, and it would appear that contact is what caused the crash. Also, either Pol hit the front brakes really hard at that point,

rotsa ruck - Unregistered

June 04, 2012 5:57 PM

or his lever was compressed by his arm making contact with MM. Either way, at that point Pol goes over the bars and crashes. Racing incident, end of.

Frame by frame also indicates MM was not looking left, but rather was already looking through the upcoming right hander. He does drift farther to the left as he sets up for the right, but it's rather obvious he has no clue that Pol is right there. I don't know what he knew, but the last time past the pit boards, Pol was behind Luthi and therefore not at all likely to be where he was. As Dovi says, not really either one's fault. Marquez' previous incidents removed, this one is not the product of dirty riding or overboard aggression.

Destro

June 04, 2012 6:27 PM

if you view the shot from overhead, marquez cuts back so fast it gives pol no place to go. When marquez gets to motogp, this behavior will not be tolerated at all. Its better he learns now.

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