MotoGP » MotoGP podium trio give views on Marquez clash


Catalunya MotoGP top three Jorge Lorenzo, Dani Pedrosa and Andrea Dovizioso give their views on the Marc Marquez/Pol Espargaro Moto2 clash.

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nino - Unregistered

June 05, 2012 1:20 AM

Err, you can't run wide and expect to find the rider behind you to brake and you first sir so you can take back your line. It is a fricken race. Marquez was relegated to third a couple laps before so he knew too well there was a fourth rider behind.

JimmyJimmy

June 05, 2012 2:35 AM
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MM almost crashed and was in the process of recovering. It's not up to the guy behind to stop racing, slow down and wait to see how it pans out. It's his job to try to take advantage of it, as any racer worth his salt will try to do. Pol is without fault in this incident.

Marquez however, after one hell of a save, would certainly have known of, at least, the possibility of the guy behind trying to take advantage of his mistake - he's been racing long enough to know that all racers, himself included, will try to take advantage of a situation like that. And he's been racing long enough to have a good feel for where the other bikes are, especially when you've been in a tacticle battle with three other bikes for many laps.

Instead of jamming as far left as he possibly could, he could have come across to the left but still left room for a bike on the inside. If he didn

JimmyJimmy

June 05, 2012 2:35 AM

cont...

If he didn't know for sure a bike was there (and it's very difficult to believe that he didn't know a bike was there), he should of at least been able to figure there was a good chance a bike was there and negotiated the turn still with good speed but with a margin for error/safety by leaving room for a bike on the inside.

The fact is, Marquez had a choice between playing absolute hardball and playing with a bit of safety. Playing with a bit of safety meant risking being passed. He wanted to reduce the risk of being passed so jammed over as far left as he could. That sums Marquez up and sums up why he is involved in so many incidents. In fact, the number of incidents he's involved in pretty much tells us all we need to know.

In relation to "looking behind" and "being in front/behind", neither is a factor. MM didn't need to look behind and it's stupid to suggest he should of. You don't need to look behind to be able to judge where the other bikes are or may be. That's part of

JimmyJimmy

June 05, 2012 2:36 AM

cont...

That's part of motorcylce racing from day one. As far as who was in front and who was behind, that's totally meaningless. MM made a mistake and went off the racing line. He wanted to merge back into the racing line after making a mistake. It's not up to other riders to manage this for him. It's up to him to manage to do it safely. When a racer makes a mistake, it's not up to others to sit back and help him renegoitate his position back in the race.

@ jimmy jibberer.
So after an essay on the event, do you agree with your idols (moaner for those uninitiated) quote of,
"Can't believe they gave Marc Marquez a 1min penalty!! Another reason why this championship needs some sorting out! I've seen much worse."
OR
The original penalty that was imposed before it was resinded?
Don't think you can sit on the fence, after all Stoner didn't.

motomaniac - Unregistered

June 05, 2012 5:40 AM

51% marquez fault..on race track,when you made a mistake,others will try to take advantage,it's racing..pol see the gap,and he try to make a pass,but unfortunately marq get back into racing line,pol got no place to go,banggggg!!almost similar incident happened to me many years ago,the front rider overshot into a corner,i'm about half a second behind him,then suddenly he get back into racing line,could not do much,hit his rear wheel and crash..and just like marquez,he continue and finish the race..wtf!
please watch pol on board camera shot to see how pol view when marquez open up the door,if i were pol,i'll try to make a pass..

sorry for my english,its not my 1st language..

Baited breath again - Unregistered

June 05, 2012 6:11 AM

motomaniac.
You did great 4 a guy who's 1st language is not English.
The 3 podium finishers, summed up the clash in 7 to 8 lines each.
You also used as little as 9 lines to get your point across.
Jimmy jimmy used 33 lines and no-one is any wiser as to what he is on about.
lol.

Gaz - Unregistered

June 05, 2012 6:46 AM

Personally I think Marquez is a dirty little **** but on this occasion I don't put any blame on him. If you see the head on replay after the race it shows Espargaro arriving in the gap with the bike out of shape and would have used Marquez as a berm anyway or run wide if he hadn't. Marquez actually lifted up just prior to the collision. The overhead shot showed Marquez was returning to the exact line Iannone and Luthi were on exiting the corner. Pol was going for the gap that was always going to close ! .

Gaz - Unregistered

June 05, 2012 6:47 AM

Pedrosa must have been thinking about Marcos move last year ! He leaves doors open and gets upset if someone tries to get through. He moaned in the interview that Lorenzo came through and nearly ran him off. Err He ran deep and Lorenzo filled the gap making Dani jump in the process !

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