MotoGP » Lorenzo: 'This test has been very important'


“This test has been very important because it's not easy to find the best set-up for the 1000cc bike here” - Jorge Lorenzo.

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dacron

June 08, 2012 4:53 AM

@ducluvr .
i never once said vale didn't start it.
if you want me to believe all the others do it because vale does then sorry mate i can't join your there.
todays prototypes are nothing like the bikes of motogp's past , they require a different style to the old , especially due to the higher speeds.
vale was on the newer bikes before the rest of todays riders and was therefore first to adapt to them.
i've been around longer than the last few years mate , thats why the bigger picture is verry clear to me.
maybe its where have you been the last decade!!

dacron

June 08, 2012 5:21 AM

in the past riders would plant the knee down and remain upright while turning .
today its plant the knee and hang bellow the handlebars.
so should we say that everyone is copying stoner?
it was that very style that caught my eye when i first seen stoner on a 125 .
but i'm not going to claim stoner started this style though , its just part of the evolution of todays riding.

Motojunky..

June 08, 2012 5:48 AM

@ bikenut.

I'm with you on thinking that's what it was, and now people are putting theories behind it. That's how all new approaches to things start. Hell, look at late 70's, when guys started hang their ar$es off the seat and sticking their knees out. I doubt anyone could get around the corners as fast using the old style today.

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Motojunky..

June 08, 2012 6:11 AM

@ dacron.

Your quote,
"Jorge's only championship victory came when two of his primary competitors were seriously injured/missed races, and Casey was spending his last year on a bike that would barely finish near the podium".
Hope your not trying to diminish what Jorge achieved in 2010?
He was a worthy champion, and being a Rossi supporter, I would like to add that I think the pressure Hooray put on Rossi that year, may have contributed to the uncharacteristic mistake Rossi made. Having said that, you could write a book on ifs, buts and maybes, and scenarios will always be there. But a World Champion is a World Champion, and that should be respected.


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bikenut

June 08, 2012 7:24 AM
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dirt riders have been putting the inside leg out coming into turns for ever and I have a pic from the 70's of some guy on his norton commando in a club race doing the same thing, this is not a new Valentino invention, thats just silly to suggest
When any experienced rider is braking into a turn and the front starts to go the leg/foot immediatly comes out, its just a reflex

zmr89

June 08, 2012 7:57 AM

Rossi was the first one I saw doing the leg thing occasionally but I think it was actually Pedrosa who started doing it regulary, I don't know.

Anyway I wouldn't include Lorenzo in this trend of dangling the leg, I have never seen him doing it, most of the time when you see a group of riders going into a turn they're all doing it except for him.

ffs - Unregistered

June 08, 2012 8:01 AM

The dangling leg thing is pure physics.

When you sit on a swivel chair and spin your self around and it goes faster if your legs are in and slower legs are out. Same principle. Still doing what stuff wants to do, that is keep doing what it is already doing. I am surprised no one has written up a simple step by step for this technique and the forces at play.


Stay nice.

there there now - Unregistered

June 08, 2012 9:14 AM


@Dracon:

Your a funny guy, Quote " in the past riders would plant the knee down and remain upright while turning
today its plant the knee and hang bellow the handlebars "

A question before you start puffing out your chest with pride, what has a leg out got to do with cornering technique, the leg out is done on the straight before the corner, also i do not recall on the 990's any leg out rubbish, and today's 1000's are no faster or cornered any different to them, please explain O wise sage.

there there now - Unregistered

June 08, 2012 9:31 AM


@Bikenut:

Quote " When any experienced rider is braking into a turn and the front starts to go the leg/foot immediately comes out, its just a reflex. " ok then, please explain why it's only a fairly recent technique if as you say it's a natural reflex, and why is it only now being copied, fronts have been sliding for many years 0n 500's and 990's and far earlier.

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