MotoGP » Lorenzo: 'This test has been very important'


“This test has been very important because it's not easy to find the best set-up for the 1000cc bike here” - Jorge Lorenzo.

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dacron

June 08, 2012 9:43 AM

@Motojunky.. .
where did i quote jlo only winning 2010 because his two main rivals were injured?
i've always spoke highly of him and believe if vale was not injured he would still have won it.
@there there now.
as i already explained before very simply , the leg out is used as a counter balance to steady the rising back wheel while hard on the brakes before falling into the lean at the corner .
today's tires are nothing like the ones used on the 990s and for this reason alone why the riding styles have changed , the pace today is on the limit for every second of the race and while it may not appear to some that its no different from the 990s , it is , one tiny mistake is punished today because there are riders at the front all on the limit and squeezing every drop of power on the straights and braking at extremes.
its not hard to see the difference.

there there now - Unregistered

June 08, 2012 10:03 AM


@Dracon:


" the leg out is used as a counter balance to steady the rising back wheel while hard on the brakes "

how exactly does it counter balance the rear, as the bike is trying o rotate around the front wheel surely a leg out will exacerbate the weight transfer to the front, contrary to what's needed which is more weight towards the rear.

dacron

June 08, 2012 10:18 AM

@there there now.
your just not getting it mate!.
ever seen riders hard on the brakes! , the back wheel off the tarmac and swerving out! , trying to control it with both feet on the pegs almost always makes them miss there line and ride off track missing the corner due to the back tire coming down and gripping out of line.
with the leg out you can angle the bike left or right with much more ease to keep the back wheel in line.
you can't possibly not understand this mate its so damn obvious!
unless your all tied up with the "its the in thing" trippers.

there there now - Unregistered

June 08, 2012 10:44 AM


@Dracon:

Oh Mr D please, yes i agree you can angle the bike, but i want you to answer the point i made about the counter balancing of the rear wheel, how does it help, in simple terms please, and don't go round the houses to avoid a straight answer.

dacron

June 08, 2012 10:58 AM

@there there now.
i don't speak E=MC2.
i suggest you borrow a mates bike and flog it down the street to just before the corner then hit the brakes at high speed and concentrate making the corner , if your leg don't come out to keep the bike steady get back to me.
now mate , your so interested in my thoughts , let me ask you why you think the leg comes out!
please don't disappoint me with its because everyone is imitating vale.

there there now - Unregistered

June 08, 2012 11:36 AM


@Dracon:

So we are agreed then, you cannot explain how it help's to prevent rear wheel lifting, good, now that's settled, your next point about why the leg out, simple, to prepare to do a speedway type slide if the front tire tuck's under, and i have first hand experience of this on track days, and saved crashing out, a tuned 2011 R1 by the way, so no borrowing required, as to E=mc2 well Paul Dirac's teachings gave me the answers thanks

addendum: So no one is copying Rossi then, err ok.

Daniella46forever

June 08, 2012 12:25 PM

@ there there now

Yep, I will answer your 3 questions!

1) On equal machinery and then I mean Yamaha or Ducati
Vale will win.
Yamaha too "46" is like a second personality and Jorge would have a lot of trouble with the Ducati ...
That I mean without being biased because the Yamaha is really smooth and totally different to bring on the circuit than the Ducati ... that cave monster is very, very hard work! On the circuit you can see it, even hear it! It is heavy metal!
2) Some time ago with Casey, Ducati was OK and speedwise they were in front of the Japanese ... but that was quick over! Honda and Yamaha improved a lot with electronics, etc., also with putting the max speed on the ground. So trouble got bigger for Ducati. Was it money or bad engenering ...? I had the feeling Ducati didn't listen for a second at Vale and they start doing now. It's a bit late, I know.
Perhaps a new boss, new rules? And fresh money?
3) Freddy, my hubby is a ... Valentino Rossi fan!
He is not so mouthfull

Daniella46forever

June 08, 2012 12:33 PM

3) Freddy my hubby is a ... Valentino Rossi fan!
He is not so mouthfull as I am but he is a Vale fan!
"46" on the car, on the BMW, pictures in the garage, etc.
But on the other hand, don't say a wrong word of Jorge, Dovi, Casey and Cal Crutchlow or you are in deep trouble!
And Freddy thinks Marquez and Bradl are the future.

dacron

June 08, 2012 12:55 PM

ah well there now , my poor pride is taking a beating just chatting to you my good man , dark cold night coffee's frozen in the cup and the leg just fell off my last pair of levie's , so not much could be worse anyway.
that gets me thinking!!
mabe you can help me out here.
how do all those riders find the time to remember to imitate vale every lap while concentrating on surviving on the limit ?
i mean surely every ounce of there time must be on getting in and around the corner wouldn't it?
lets hear some A+ knowledge to help out a grad student!

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