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"Now we're competitive in the wet on this track as well, whereas it was a little harder for us in the dry" - Valentino Rossi.

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dacron

June 15, 2012 7:32 PM

i'm not convinced its so much the bike as it is vale.
hayden came in 4th in fp2 in dry conditions , so the bike really isn't as bad as last of the prototypes.
it may upset some but the reality is after one and a half years is that vale cannot ride the ducati.
his results in the wet also come about because others slow down in the wet.
i'm not saying he is no good , i'm saying he can't ride the ducati.

sam - Unregistered

June 15, 2012 7:36 PM

i have a doubt, do they share data's i mean hayden's camp n vale's ? i believe dont. in that way also settings prob can give advantage to one who finds correct setup. i dont believe the words nw heard on vale's ability, absolute rubbish boss

Realist

June 15, 2012 7:43 PM
Last Edited 808 days ago

@ Sam

Guys like you are funny....touting Hayden as some Ducati master. Hayden hasn't done anything in YEARS, and will likely NEVER match VR's personal best of second place on the Ducati.


@ dacron

Yes, Hayden maintained a 4th in FREE PRACTICE, but that doesn't mean a thing (obviously). Hayden has momentary glimpses of brilliance that likely are a culmination of things "going his way" while the other teams struggle with set-up. That Ducati is not a 4th place bike, and you can't honestly believe that it is.

dacron

June 15, 2012 7:51 PM

@Realist.
i'm not saying its a 4th place bike , only that its not the worst of the prototypes is all.
likewise though i would find it hard to believe there is anyone out there who thinks vale rides the ducati good!

Realist

June 15, 2012 7:57 PM
Last Edited 808 days ago

@ dacron

I won't argue that he rides it well, but I don't feel that way because of a perceived lack of ability on VR's part. I just think that it comes down to riding style (and VR's style is like most riders...i.e..front end), and the bikes inability to inspire confidence for the 99%. Casey is an outlier, and he can't really be factored into the equation if we are to be realistic and objective. Remove Stoner, and there isn't a rider out there who has really gelled with the GP. So what does that really tell us (other than the fact that Stoner's style proved efficient on a flawed bike)?

dacron

June 15, 2012 8:05 PM

@Realist.
thats pretty well said.
i was never questioning vales abilities , we all know what he can do on a yamaha.
also the ducati prototype has never been a stable one , how stoner did what he did on it i don't think anyone will ever understand , other than his will to get to the line first.
but he did have to work out how to make it do that.

Suzuki - Unregistered

June 15, 2012 8:11 PM

Point and case...Rossi himself has admitted he doesn't have the right lines in certain areas...anyone who rides or drive their machines on a racing circuit knows its the racer being in tuned with the machine to get it in the right direction at the right time...it's different for every corner, machine, tarmac compound etc...his statement proves he's working on his approach ...it won't be long for his first race win with Ducati ...he will develope a bike so easy to ride even Hayden can win a c'ship in comfort

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